Micheal Bennett

[B-Dogg]

I' m not sold on Marcel Shipp, I just dont think he has the speed to be overly effective in Green's system, Bennett on the other hand does and Green I believe orginally drafted him. The Vikings have a crowded backfield and are said to be looking at the possibility of shopping him. What Im wondering is what would we give up to bring him in, and should we? I think we should and I think that a 3rd or 4th round pick would probably get it done.

[Poorknight1]

I would rather see us offer a 3rd rounder for Onterrio Smith...

[vikesfan]

I' m not sold on Marcel Shipp, I just dont think he has the speed to be overly effective in Green's system, Bennett on the other hand does and Green I believe orginally drafted him. The Vikings have a crowded backfield and are said to be looking at the possibility of shopping him. What Im wondering is what would we give up to bring him in, and should we? I think we should and I think that a 3rd or 4th round pick would probably get it done.
Are you kidding me? This guy is a pro-bowl RB.
To get him a 1st round pick would not be enough by itself. He is the starter.

And the Vikes like having a lot of RBs on the team. They will not dump any of their RBs. They only have Bennett, O Smith (injury insurance), M Williams (getting older), Moore (rookie).

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

vikesfan is right. there is NO WAY we could get bennett for a 3rd or 4th. that's just ridiculous wishful thinking. we'd be better off trying to get onterrio for a second rounder.

[vince56]

Are you kidding me? This guy is a pro-bowl RB.
To get him a 1st round pick would not be enough by itself. He is the starter.


Yep. This thread is dillusional.

[B-Dogg]

Yep. This thread is dillusional.

Lets not get carried away here people, Bennett is a good back but he isnt Marshall Faulk and we all know what he got traded for. So lets not get overly excited about Bennett being worth a 1st round pick or Onterrio Smith a 2nd. Come on now.

[azdad1978]

Lets not get carried away here people, Bennett is a good back but he isnt Marshall Faulk and we all know what he got traded for. So lets not get overly excited about Bennett being worth a 1st round pick or Onterrio Smith a 2nd. Come on now.


Even TO got traded for a 5th round pick and he's a All Pro Wideout. Bennett hasn't done jack squat to be worth a 1st round pick.

[LVCARDFREAK]

Lets not get carried away here people, Bennett is a good back but he isnt Marshall Faulk and we all know what he got traded for. So lets not get overly excited about Bennett being worth a 1st round pick or Onterrio Smith a 2nd. Come on now.


In order to take away a teams starting RB you will need to at least give up a first rounder. Bennett is their guy, they wont let him walk.

Bennett is easily worth a 1st and more, Smith probably a 3rd, but the Vikes wont wheel and deal either of them.

[vikesfan]

Bennett made the pro-bowl. Take a look at his rushing stats. The number of plus 70 yard runs he had. His YPC. Over 1000 yards rushing. And remember he only played 1 year of RB in college. He was raw coming into the NFL. He is one of the best RBs in the NFL. He is the fastest running back in the NFL. He also can run inside. He worked on his recieving this offseason. This kid is the real deal.

As for Faulk and TO those were FORCED trades. Neither guy was going to play for their team. They took whatever they could get for them.
That is the difference.

[azdad1978]

Bennett made the pro-bowl. Take a look at his rushing stats. The number of plus 70 yard runs he had. His YPC. Over 1000 yards rushing. And remember he only played 1 year of RB in college. He was raw coming into the NFL. He is one of the best RBs in the NFL. He is the fastest running back in the NFL. He also can run inside. He worked on his recieving this offseason. This kid is the real deal.

As for Faulk and TO those were FORCED trades. Neither guy was going to play for their team. They took whatever they could get for them.
That is the difference.


Bennett only have one good year and thats when he rushed for 1296 in 2002. If he's been doing that year in and year out then yes he's elite. But as of right now he's in the middle of the pack RB IMO.

[B-Dogg]

Bennett made the pro-bowl. Take a look at his rushing stats. The number of plus 70 yard runs he had. His YPC. Over 1000 yards rushing. And remember he only played 1 year of RB in college. He was raw coming into the NFL. He is one of the best RBs in the NFL. He is the fastest running back in the NFL. He also can run inside. He worked on his recieving this offseason. This kid is the real deal.

As for Faulk and TO those were FORCED trades. Neither guy was going to play for their team. They took whatever they could get for them.
That is the difference.

And remeber 1000 yards is not that good of a season, damn near every back in the NFL runs for a 1000 yards if he is a starter. I think the kid has potential and I like him better than Shipp but there are probably 10 to 15 backs in the league I like better than him. And it was a Minnesota paper and Bennett himself that were talking about the possibility of him being traded.

[red desert]

For those that are intrigued by acquiring Bennett, how about Shipp for Bennett?

[azdad1978]

For those that are intrigued by acquiring Bennett, how about Shipp for Bennett?


Sure why not.

[LVCARDFREAK]

Sure why not.


Sure! And while we are at it, how about Nate Poole for Randy Moss??

[kerouac9]

Sure! And while we are at it, how about Nate Poole for Randy Moss??

:biglaugh:

As long as we're on the phone, might as well pull the trigger on the Wendell-Bryant-for-Chris-Hovan deal. Just to save the quarter.

[Lars the Red]

Considering he has injury issues, I don't see the need to go more than a 3rd. If you want to call him elite, let's see him perform for several years at a consistant level and without missing games, until then he's just a talented guy that hasn't reached elite.

Look at the trend around the league. You've got proven difference makers going for late rounders. A second rounder would seem steep.

[azdad1978]

Bennett is a middle of the pack RB. Until he rushes 1500 yards year in and year out then I'll start call him elite.

[vince56]

Bennett is a middle of the pack RB. Until he rushes 1500 yards year in and year out then I'll start call him elite.

I don't think it's a matter of debate as to his "elite-ness" or lack thereof. It's simply supply and demand. Yes, David Boston was had for a low rounder, so was Marshall Faulk and Junior Seau and TO, etc. BECAUSE THOSE TEAMS WANTED TO GET RID OF THEM. The other teams knew they could pay a lower price and still get their guy. In a case like Bennett, who is the starter for Minnesota and doesn't appear to be going anywhere in the near future, the pick the team demands would most likely be a lot higher because he's an integral part of the offense and they have no immediate intention of shopping him. He's not going anywhere anytime soon.

[ArizonaLacky]

Bennet is a Pro Bowl running back every year. No doubt, anyone who doubts that needs to re-evaluate their lives. If we can snag bennet for a 3rd round pick, the cards might just get arrested for stealing. Bennet is one of the top 5 backs in the league and we are going to see that this season when he puts up damn near 1700 yards. Vikes fan brings up a stat not often noticed by many, he breaks more long runs than any back in the game. He is a true game breaker who can also run inside. If we aquire bennet, it would actually make opponents second guess their teams chance of winning, and would instantly take a world of pressure of Mccown

[DevonCardsFan]

Bennet is a Pro Bowl running back every year. No doubt, anyone who doubts that needs to re-evaluate their lives. If we can snag bennet for a 3rd round pick, the cards might just get arrested for stealing. Bennet is one of the top 5 backs in the league and we are going to see that this season when he puts up damn near 1700 yards. Vikes fan brings up a stat not often noticed by many, he breaks more long runs than any back in the game. He is a true game breaker who can also run inside. If we aquire bennet, it would actually make opponents second guess their teams chance of winning, and would instantly take a world of pressure of Mccown

Bennett's good but not top 5. Holmes, Williams, Tomlinson, J Lewis, A Green, S Alexander, C Portis, D McAllister.......... I'm not sure he is even a top 10. He is a good back though.

[WildBB]

When did Marshall Faulk get traded?

[red desert]

If Bennett had already rushed for 1500+ yards Minnesota probably wouldn't be shopping him around. It's like the stock market, or real estate, or just about anything else: buy low sell high.

The key, as I see it, is latching onto a player that has his best years ahead of him - in the IMMEDIATE future. Bennett seems to fit the bill. A risk? Of course. But the question is whether he is worth the risk of whatever it is you are willing to give up for him. I'd give up a number two for Mike McKenzie, and I'd give up a number two for Bennett - easy.

[Chris_Sanders]

The Vikings aren't looking to trade Micheal Bennett. Why waste our time with useless speculation?

I sincerly hope that some of you newer people don't plan on posting up rediculous trade scenarios the entire off season.

[B-Dogg]

The Vikings aren't looking to trade Micheal Bennett. Why waste our time with useless speculation?

I sincerly hope that some of you newer people don't plan on posting up rediculous trade scenarios the entire off season.

As far as the Vikings looking to trade Bennett, who knows, but I read an article with quotes from Bennett about the possibility of rumors swirling that he could be traded. I guess its all speculation until something happens, but then so is everything on this board. Who would the Cards draft? What will their record be? How will McCown do? I guess until the season starts and we can talk about what is happening on the field we shouldn't really be posting much of anything.

[azdad1978]

The Vikings aren't looking to trade Micheal Bennett. Why waste our time with useless speculation?

I sincerly hope that some of you newer people don't plan on posting up rediculous trade scenarios the entire off season.


Why do you have to be always negative man? Its slow and its offseason. We have nothing to talk about so we talk drivel. Lighten up man :O

[azdad1978]

As far as the Vikings looking to trade Bennett, who knows, but I read an article with quotes from Bennett about the possibility of rumors swirling that he could be traded. I guess its all speculation until something happens, but then so is everything on this board. Who would the Cards draft? What will their record be? How will McCown do? I guess until the season starts and we can talk about what is happening on the field we shouldn't really be posting much of anything.



Healthy Bennett heads crowded Vikings' backfield

DAVE CAMPBELL / Associated Press

Posted: 1 day ago

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) — Michael Bennett is healthy and in fine form. Now, the Minnesota Vikings are eager to get a full season out of their top runner.

"Bennett looks fantastic," coach Mike Tice said.
Last season, Bennett needed two surgeries on his foot and was out until November after a freak accident on a treadmill in March 2003. Even when he came back his impact was minimal - 447 yards rushing, 132 yards receiving and one touchdown over the last nine games.

Though Bennett's absence was a major worry last summer, it hardly caused a ripple. The Vikings finished with the top-ranked offense in the league, and veteran Moe Williams had a career season as the featured back.

Rookie Onterrio Smith stepped in nicely, too, once he convinced the coaching staff his knowledge, maturity and pass-blocking ability were up to NFL standards.

The Vikings also still have Larry Ned, a practice-squad player they have liked for two years, and they drafted Mewelde Moore out of Tulane in the fourth round last month.

It's enough talent for some to wonder whether Bennett could find himself as a part-timer - or even as trade bait if Smith proves he's good enough to start.

"You hear about stuff like that," Bennett said this week. "I don't take it as criticism. He's a great running back. ... It's competition. That's what the sport is all about."


Michael Bennett's contribution to the Vikings' 2003 campaign was minimal.
Donald Miralle/Getty Images


And, as the Vikings showed last season, running back is a position where a team can never have enough good players.

"It's a blessing that we have such talented guys throughout the depth chart, top to bottom," running backs coach Dean Dalton said. "They'll all contribute somehow."

Bennett, though, remains the centerpiece.

"When he gets into his rhythm and his groove, we're hard to stop because he can take it from anywhere on the field and score a touchdown," quarterback Daunte Culpepper said. "When you have a threat like that, it makes it easier for you to run the offense."

Bennett, who plans complete his criminal justice degree at Wisconsin this year through online courses, thought about running track this summer.

He changed his mind when the Vikings hired Mark Ellis as their assistant strength and conditioning coach. Bennett has used Ellis as a personal trainer, so the team's ramped-up offseason program is in line with what he's been doing.

"The foot's good," he said. "Definitely 100 percent. ... Hopefully everything works out and I can get back in there and give them a show."

Tice and Dalton are both pleased with the strides Bennett has made both physically and mentally. He recently bought a new computer, Dalton said, to make it easier to view game film at home.

"I almost caught myself just now saying he looks as good as Robert Smith in his prime, but I don't want to go there yet," Tice said. "Michael, he's one of those guys that has matured, wants to be a leader, wants to do great things.

"Michael is going to have a special year."

[Chris_Sanders]

Why do you have to be always negative man? Its slow and its offseason. We have nothing to talk about so we talk drivel. Lighten up man :O

I prefer the term realistic over negative.

Hmm..I know, I think I will go talk about how the Suns can acquire Shaq for Jake Voskhul since I "read somewhere" that Shaq doesn't like Kobe.

Or even better...we could trade Shea Hillenbrand to the Yankees for A-Rod since A-Rod is making Jeter play bad.


The point is that wild speculation and conjecture doesn't really add anything to a message board outside of space filling.

[Chris_Sanders]

It's enough talent for some to wonder whether Bennett could find himself as a part-timer - or even as trade bait if Smith proves he's good enough to start.


Wow, looks like he is going to get traded any minute now :rolleyes:

"It's talent enough for some to wonder if"

Could this reporter try to be more vague?

Ah well, I am sure he is relying on the P.T. Barnum theory to sell his paper. And look...it worked!

[vikesfan]

Bennett is a middle of the pack RB. Until he rushes 1500 yards year in and year out then I'll start call him elite.
Sorry he MADE the pro-bowl. That means he is one of the top of the pack RBs.

[vikesfan]

Bennett's good but not top 5. Holmes, Williams, Tomlinson, J Lewis, A Green, S Alexander, C Portis, D McAllister.......... I'm not sure he is even a top 10. He is a good back though.

He is better then Faulk and Alexander.
He is the best back in the NFL at breaking a long one. That speed threat make the Vikes offense the best in the NFL.

[vikesfan]

Bennet is a Pro Bowl running back every year. No doubt, anyone who doubts that needs to re-evaluate their lives. If we can snag bennet for a 3rd round pick, the cards might just get arrested for stealing. Bennet is one of the top 5 backs in the league and we are going to see that this season when he puts up damn near 1700 yards. Vikes fan brings up a stat not often noticed by many, he breaks more long runs than any back in the game. He is a true game breaker who can also run inside. If we aquire bennet, it would actually make opponents second guess their teams chance of winning, and would instantly take a world of pressure of Mccown

Great post by a newbie!

[vikesfan]

Considering he has injury issues, I don't see the need to go more than a 3rd. If you want to call him elite, let's see him perform for several years at a consistant level and without missing games, until then he's just a talented guy that hasn't reached elite.

Look at the trend around the league. You've got proven difference makers going for late rounders. A second rounder would seem steep.

He got hurt on a treadmill freak injury.

[vikesfan]

As far as the Vikings looking to trade Bennett, who knows, but I read an article with quotes from Bennett about the possibility of rumors swirling that he could be traded. I guess its all speculation until something happens, but then so is everything on this board. Who would the Cards draft? What will their record be? How will McCown do? I guess until the season starts and we can talk about what is happening on the field we shouldn't really be posting much of anything.

Come on there were articles on Moss being traded. The MIN press and a lot of the NFL press is poison.

[Stout]

He is better then Faulk and Alexander.
He is the best back in the NFL at breaking a long one. That speed threat make the Vikes offense the best in the NFL.

Sorry, but :biglaugh:

Faulk is on the downside of his career, yes, but until Bennett shows that he can be better than him, Faulk is still worlds better, if each are healthy.

Alexander? Man, I shouldn't even dignify that with a response, but I will. Bennett's biggest year has been 1296 rushing, 351 receiving, and 6 total touchdowns. Alexander's biggest year has been 1435 rushing, 295 receiving, and 17 total touchdowns. Wow. That's a 66 point differential right there. That's not to mention that Alexander hasn't had less than 14 rushing TDs in a season since 2000. Or that Bennett has only had one good year. I mean, it's not even a comparison.

[vikesfan]

Sorry, but :biglaugh:

Faulk is on the downside of his career, yes, but until Bennett shows that he can be better than him, Faulk is still worlds better, if each are healthy.

Alexander? Man, I shouldn't even dignify that with a response, but I will. Bennett's biggest year has been 1296 rushing, 351 receiving, and 6 total touchdowns. Alexander's biggest year has been 1435 rushing, 295 receiving, and 17 total touchdowns. Wow. That's a 66 point differential right there. That's not to mention that Alexander hasn't had less than 14 rushing TDs in a season since 2000. Or that Bennett has only had one good year. I mean, it's not even a comparison.


Uh Faulk is done. And Bennett was pulled out of games when they got close to the goalline that cost him TDs. How many 70 yard TD runs has Alexander had?

[azdad1978]

Sorry he MADE the pro-bowl. That means he is one of the top of the pack RBs.


Sorry Quan made the Probowl too does that mean he's elite? IMO no. Unless Quan does it year in and year out then I'll say he's elite.

[Ryanwb]

How many 70 yard TD runs has Alexander had?
Who cares???? A TD is a TD

[azdad1978]

Wow, looks like he is going to get traded any minute now :rolleyes:

"It's talent enough for some to wonder if"

Could this reporter try to be more vague?

Ah well, I am sure he is relying on the P.T. Barnum theory to sell his paper. And look...it worked!


Don't kill the messenger. If you have any beef with article write the writer.

[azdad1978]

Sorry he MADE the pro-bowl. That means he is one of the top of the pack RBs.


Btw our punter Scott Player made the Pro Bowl too does that mean he's elite.
Pro bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest.

[Stout]

Who cares???? A TD is a TD

Ex-actly. If your starting RB needs to be pulled in goal line situations, he's a bit inferior. Not much, but enough, when you're comparing top RBs in the league. Add all the other factors making Alexander a MUCH better RB, and there's no contest.

[Krangthebrain]

Ex-actly. If your starting RB needs to be pulled in goal line situations, he's a bit inferior. Not much, but enough, when you're comparing top RBs in the league. Add all the other factors making Alexander a MUCH better RB, and there's no contest.

Which is why it isn't even a contest between Emmitt and Barry...

[vikesfan]

He did not have to be pulled that was just to get the other guy some touches.

Q is elite.

I don't see a lot of popularity picks in the probowl they look at play and production. The probowl is not as much a popularity contest.

You will see. The great thing about football you will see for yourself. Oh BTW a running team's will get more carries and hence more yards then a passing teams' RB just so you know.

[azdad1978]

He did not have to be pulled that was just to get the other guy some touches.

Q is elite.

I don't see a lot of popularity picks in the probowl they look at play and production. The probowl is not as much a popularity contest.

You will see. The great thing about football you will see for yourself. Oh BTW a running team's will get more carries and hence more yards then a passing teams' RB just so you know.


Q is not elite, not yet. If he puts up numbers like Holt,TO,Moss and Harisson then we can call him elite. You don't think Probowl is not a popularity contest? So why is Larry Allen in the Pro Bowl when his production has been slipping? Or Shockey numbers are down and Freddie Jones have a better year than Shockey or Crumpler?

[vikesfan]

Q is not elite, not yet. If he puts up numbers like Holt,TO,Moss and Harisson then we can call him elite. You don't think Probowl is not a popularity contest? So why is Larry Allen in the Pro Bowl when his production has been slipping? Or Shockey numbers are down and Freddie Jones have a better year than Shockey or Crumpler?

You want to make a bet? I bet you Q will be elite.

You pick a couple exceptions. Most picks are deserved Ogunlye made it ahead of Taylor. Q made it the kid was a rookie he has no popularity. Wait a second he was a rookie for the AZ Cards talk about unpopular! Bennett made it in his second year. The examples I cite clearly show guys who made it despite not having popularity.
When Christy sucked he stopped making it. Etc etc etc.

[azdad1978]

You want to make a bet? I bet you Q will be elite.

You pick a couple exceptions. Most picks are deserved Ogunlye made it ahead of Taylor. Q made it the kid was a rookie he has no popularity. Wait a second he was a rookie for the AZ Cards talk about unpopular! Bennett made it in his second year. The examples I cite clearly show guys who made it despite not having popularity.
When Christy sucked he stopped making it. Etc etc etc.


Dude do you think before you talk? You cannot be Elite until you proved it year in and year out. Of course he was invite at the Pro Bowl he was our offense the whole year and nobody even came close to his numbers. You still haven't answered the reason why Allen and Shockey was an invite but instead you jump about Ogunleye. Btw David Boston was in the Pro Bowl in 2001 and he fell off the cliff, I'm not comparing Boston to Quan but one good year doesn't make you "elite".

[vikesfan]

Dude do you think before you talk? You cannot be Elite until you proved it year in and year out. Of course he was invite at the Pro Bowl he was our offense the whole year and nobody even came close to his numbers. You still haven't answered the reason why Allen and Shockey was an invite but instead you jump about Ogunleye. Btw David Boston was in the Pro Bowl in 2001 and he fell off the cliff, I'm not comparing Boston to Quan but one good year doesn't make you "elite".
I believe in Q, you want to bet or not?

[azdad1978]

I believe in Q, you want to bet or not?


So do I. I go to all the games, you're just a guy who passed by cause DG is here. Come back to me in 5 years and we'll discuss this again.

[WisconsinCard]

So do I. I go to all the games, you're just a guy who passed by cause DG is here. Come back to me in 5 years and we'll discuss this again.


Wanna bet VF is not here in 5 years?? I guess I would have to give you some odds on that. VF seems to forget we didn't just fall from the heavens last night. We have been loyal cards fans for years, some of 25 to 40 years. In case he was wondering I fall into the 25 years catagory this year.