Who do you want to be ASU's next football coach?

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  1. 82CardsGrad

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    Vince Marrotta referenced a report today that indicated how virtually all of the 5-star recruits were heading to Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Bama and Miami. Not a surprise at all obviously. ASU has never been a target for 4 & 5 star recruits and for this class, given all of the of changes, it's totally unrealistic for us to expect that would change. Herm seems to be locking up a ton of 3 star recruits, which is really what ASU has always been able to do. Next year though, it's right for us to expect that Herm can enhance that story and pick up more 4 star recruits. I just don't see any 5 start recruits coming to Tempe anytime soon...
     
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    Apparently the additional recruits will be added during the regular signing period.

    Doug Haller talks about the recruits in an azcentral article plus Edwards time on the road recruiting.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...embling-his-first-recruiting-class/971308001/
     
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    I'm expecting 4 and 5 star recruits next season. :)
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Yeah the whole setting the bar low so three star recruits feel like a success is self-defeating. If the goal of the program was to continue to limp along with three star recruits why make any changes?
     
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    These were my feelings but I'm giving Edwards a chance for the sake of @82CardsGrad.

    Is it me or does Herm always seem angry?
     
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    Next year is the test of the Edwards experiment. He wasn't going to do much in 2 weeks, didn't hurt that ASU had less than 20 recruits and none above a 3-star ranking so the de-commits didn't hurt that much. I would expect Edwards to look at JC guys to add to this class unless they are done. Were their any 5-star kids on the west coast (CA, NV, CO, WA, OR) because it seemed like all the 5-star kids were in the East Coast & South so SEC and Big 10 had an advantage.
     
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    Clearly, that wasn't the goal... but seriously, did you really believe Herm could come in when he did and somehow snag 4 & 5 star recruits in this early-signing period??? Seriously??
    Who knows, may by the Feb 7th signing period he may bring us a surprise or two... but even I'm not holding my breath!
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I wasn’t really expecting ANYTHING this signing period. I read your post as being pretty defeatist saying 3 Star is all asu has ever been able to get and not expecting any 5 Star. Maybe I read into it too much.
     
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    Not sure where this is going... but. When was ASU ever able to attract 5-Star recruits? Are you using this expectation - as out of the realm of reasonableness as it is - as a way to attack Anderson and the hiring of Herm?? :shrug:
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I’m saying for years asu has pursued being a top tier program. If that’s the goal then expectations need be raised. If it’s just to recruit 3 stars why fire the guy who gets those and wins 7 games a year?

    Asu is one of largest universities in the country, located in a metropolitan city, in a desirable climate, in a major conference the football program should be consistently better than it is.
     
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    Anderson/Crow/Herm have made it crystal clear what their collective goals and aspirations are... and I'm quite sure you know that. You know what they've said. You know that their plan is clearly not to continue down the path that ASU has been on for decades now. Anderson said he expects ASU to be a consistent Top 10/Top 15 team in the country. So their is no "if that's the goal." They couldn't have been more clear that that IS the goal! And if you really think that little of Ray, Crow and Herm as to think that they're plan to achieve their clear goals is to recruit 3 stars, then honestly, I don't know how you've been a fan and why you claim to be a fan today...

    Now you sound just like Ray... how ironic! The reality of course, is that ASU has never had the athletic program and cache that could ever come close to programs such as Stanford, USC and UCLA. So yea, there are a TON of positive attributes about ASU, but as you clearly know, they have never - as in ever in their history, been able to compete with the gold standards within the Pac-12.
    Does that mean it has to remain that way forever? Well, apparently Ray, Crow and Herm don't believe so. They believe they can ultimately get ASU into a much more consistently competitive situation with those schools than ever before.
    But again - do you really believe that was going to happen this year?? Seriously???
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Nah, you’re not following. Forget it.
     
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    The knock on ASU was always its sub-par facilities...which now are some of the best in the country. Graham wasn't Anderson's guy, and I think Anderson wanted to put his stamp on the program, and at least attempt to get to that next echelon...which he knew Graham couldn't get to.
     
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    I don't know why anyone would say ASU can't recruit 5 star recruits, it wasn't that long ago we landed Vontaze Burfict. Just off the top of my head I know Terrell Suggs and Shante Carver were highly sought after when they got here. We had recruits like John Jefferson, Aaron Cox and Darryl Harris. We used to land top JUCOs like Delvon Flowers and Jalen Strong.

    I get why we fired Dennis Erickson. No way a 60 some year old NFL retread, brings ASU back to recruiting greatness. Hey at least we landed Bobby Hurley.
     
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