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  1. coyoteshockeyfan

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    Thread dedicated for news on the USNT, Americans playing abroad, or on other US soccer subjects otherwise not notable enough for its own thread.

    Bradley's initial roster as camp starts before the Sweden friendly.

    GOALKEEPERS(4) – Brad Guzan (Chivas USA), Will Hesmer (Columbus Crew), Matt Pickens (Chicago Fire), Zach Wells (D.C. United)

    DEFENDERS (9) –Dan Califf (Aalborg BK), Jimmy Conrad (Kansas City Wizards), Ramiro Corrales (SK Brann), Todd Dunivant (Toronto FC), Clarence Goodson (San Jose Earthquakes), Drew Moor (FC Dallas), Michael Parkhurst (New England Revolution), Eddie Robinson (Houston Dynamo), Marvell Wynne (Toronto FC)

    MIDFIELDERS (7) –Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo), Brian Davis (Houston Dynamo), Maurice Edu (Toronto FC), Sacha Kljestan (Chivas USA), Justin Mapp (Chicago Fire), Pat Noonan (New England Revolution)

    FORWARDS (6) –Josmer Altidore (New York Red Bulls), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Eddie Johnson (Kansas Cit y Wizards), Chris
    Rolfe (Chicago Fire), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution), Jeremiah White (AGF Aarhus)

    http://www.ussoccer.com/articles/viewArticle.jsp_4554753.html
     
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    I was thinking of driving out for that game but now I'm not so sure based on that roster.
     
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    Good idea for this thread.

    Why is Twellman back on the roster? Pat Noonan too? Not exactly our "A" team but he's probably not requesting the guys from Europe to assure that their clubs will release them for the Mexico friendly. I do like seeing guys like Wynne, Clark, Edu, White and Altidore in camp.

    I'm much more looking towards the Olympic tourney than I am the upcoming friendly's as I think the Olympic team is going to have some kids that will feature prominently in 2010 (Altidore, Edu, Bradley, Adu in particular). Also since I have tickets for the last 2 days of that tourney in Nashville I'm really looking forward to it.
     
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    The new US soccer jersey. Its actually navy blue, it just looks black in the picture due to the lighting.

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    gr000000vy I scored against Derby

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    ugh... that roster is just painful...

    Is Bradley just trying to make all the MLS teams happy or what? Where is Pablo? i know why they didnt pick the European players but we can do better than that....

    my USA starting 11 (using europeans)

    Keep: Howard

    Backs: Gooch, Carlos, Spector, Wynne

    Mids: Beasley, Adu, Edu, Feilhaber

    Strikers: Jozy, Dempsey

    on the bench: e johnson, Bornstein, DeMerit, Friedel

    carrying the water: twellman and landycakes
     
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    You would bench Donovan which is rediculous and as far as Freidel goes, you are about 5-7 years too late on that. Donovan haters are a joke.
     
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    gr000000vy I scored against Derby

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    ok so friedel is kicking major butt as first team keeper for blackburn and keller can't even get a game for fulham.. Hahnemann has been letting in about 5 goals a game it seems for Reading.. Friedel is more then qualified to be sitting on the bench....

    as far as landon donovan.. take the blinders off man he sucks plain and simple.. he had a great cup run in 02 but since he actually has to deal with pressure all he can do is take PKs...

    You take shots at a roster and don't give one in return? lol you seem to be the joke... Who is your starting 11?
     
  8. coyoteshockeyfan

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    Regardless of how he is playing in the EPL, Brad Friedel retired from national team duty back in 2005 so he isn't coming back. As for the Donovan comment, his games this year against Ecuador and Mexico (both of them) speak for itself.
     
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    yea he is great against Guatemala and Costa Rica too wooo hooooo!!!!!!!!!!

    He is still young enough to get out of the MLS and do something and become the great hype everyone wants him to be.. there were rumors that he was headed to Everton.. i think that would be great...

    and yes I know Friedel has retired from International Duty but it's my starting 11 and he is the second best keeper in the US right now...

    ahhh specking of retired internationals that reminds me McBride would definitely make my bench as well....
     
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    Hahnemann had 1 game with Reading where he let in 5 goals, he's done well aside from that. Friedel has retired, he isn't an option. Howard is first choice and should be backed up by some of the younger guys...Chris Seitz is our GK of the future, that guy is a more athletic Brad Friedel.

    Donovan doesn't suck...Donovan also isn't as good as advertised either. He is extremely frustrating but name one player in the history of US Soccer that has scored at the clip that Donovan does? He needs to act like he wants to take his game to the next level(meaning leave MLS) and he needs to perform in games away off of US soil. Right now at this point in time he is the best field player US soccer has ever produced...hopefully Adu and Altidore will surpass him but they aren't there yet.

    Also with your lineup--I'd move Dempsey back to the MF where he is more comfortable rather than the target forward role that Bradley has forced him into and I take Feilhaber off the field, you also have to find a place to put Michael Bradley who is quietly having the best season of any American field player in Europe, I'm not replacing Cherundolo with Wynne either since Cherundolo is our most steady defender for the past few years. Beasley is out for the next 6 months or so I guess my ideal lineup would look like this...

    GK: Howard

    Outside backs: Cherundolo, Spector

    Center Backs: Onyewu, Bocanegra

    Outside Mids: Dempsey, Donovan

    Central Mids: Adu(more of the withdrawn forward that he played in the U20's), Edu, Bradley

    Forward: Altidore
     
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    gr000000vy I scored against Derby

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    a 4-5-1 heh...

    your lineup isn't bad... I dont really like Dempsey on the outside though and if Adu is playing the role of a holding type striker then i'd buy that..

    Not sure about Donovan on the outside either unless that move is to try to get him some space...

    Did forget about Bradley need him in there... at least the US is finally at a point where they have some options which is great...

    No Donovan doesnt suck.. but he is nowhere near as good as people think he is... I would say Dempsey has already proven more outside of US then Donovan though...

    Donovan couldn't hold a candle to McBride either, Donovan can still turn it around but imo if he contines at this pace then he doesnt make the starting 11 at the next world cup....

    Reading... let in 6 vs Tott'ham, 4 vs Blackburn, 7 vs Portsmouth.. no its not all on the keeper.. but we can do better than him....
     
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    Dempsey's best games with the US have come as an outside MF. He looks lost up front, especially when they try to make him a target forward.

    Dempsey is not a better international than Donovan right now. He just hasn't been a very consistent threat in US Nat games, and he plays against the same competition as Donovan yet Donovan creates and scores more often.

    IMO Donovan is a much better player but in a much different role than McBride for a couple of reasons 1) he can create on his own and 2) pure speed. McBride was a target forward, great with the ball in the air and a threat everytime inside the 18 but Donovan can break someone down with the ball at his feet and then flat out run past them. Sure you'll never see Donovan fly over a couple of defenders on set pieces and hammer a ball home with his head but at the same time you never saw Brian McBride take a ball from the midfield line, split 2 defenders and outrace them to goal like Donovan did versus Mexico last year in Glendale. Sure if you wanted to try to pigeon hole Donovan as a target forward he wouldn't be able to hold a candle to McBride but they are different players, different roles.

    I'm not a 100% Donovan backer, I wasn't happy when he begged out of the Copa America, I am rarely happy with his performances outside of the US (aside from WC 2002 and WC 2006 VS Italy). I really think he should go overseas because IMO if you want to be the best you need to seek out the best competiton. His game is as good as its gonna get, which is still pretty good BUT had he played in an ultra competitive environment for the past few years its scary to think how good he could be.

    I find it funny that you have Eddie Johnson on your bench but have Donovan as a water boy...Johnson hasn't proven squat on the international level aside from one stretch when he first appeared and he disappeared in MLS after a hot start.

    Hahnemann is older than Friedel, I believe he was the back-up on the 94 team IIRC. He shouldn't even be considered for our WC squad, we have too many talented younger players like Guzan, Seitz, Brown etc to hold a spot for him.
     
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    yea i think we are going to have to agree to disagree on whether Donovan is a better player than Dempsey or not, i'm watching Dempsey every week be consistently the best player on the pitch for Fulham and I just hope he moves to a bigger club after Fulham gets dropped from the prem.
     
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    Club soccer doesn't mean squat if he doesn't produce consistently at the international level. Going in to the last WC Beasley was our best player overseas while at Eindhoven, he was their leading scorer during Champions League play(they reached the semi's)...he did nothing at the WC aside from one good pass to Dempsey.

    Production at the national team level is the only way to compare these 2 and Dempsey doesn't come close to adding up...yet.
     
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    gr000000vy I scored against Derby

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    and what did Donovan do during the World Cup?
     

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