The Arizona Cardinals & The Pro bowl

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  1. kerouac9

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    Unpopular opinion alert: Fitz doesn't deserve to go.

    8th in yards, T24 in TDs, only Golden Tate has fewer YPC than Fitz in the Top 25 WRs. 24th in DYAR, 37th in DVOA (if you care about advanced stats).
     
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    I agree Fitz is getting votes on name not on the year he's been having. He's one of those guys who gets votes because people see his name and automatically vote for him. Mathieu shouldn't even be sniffing the top 25.
     
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    But, he's 1st in the NFC in catches, 3rd in yards, and as always, near the top in catch rate, while having lousy QBs for much of the season.

    Aside from Julio Jones and Adam Thielen, who else in the NFC deserves to go ahead of him?

    ...dbs
     
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    They don’t do conferences anymore, so I’d also rather have AJ Green, Antonio Brown, Deandre Hopkins, and Tyreek Hill.
     
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    Yes they do. Again.

    ...dbs
     
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    Have you ever been to Canada ? I grew up there. You could have 65-70 degrees the end of October or you could have completely frozen ground and about 28 degrees. If it snowed, it was cold. Period.
    0 degrees means nothing. If the ground is frozen, it's frozen, it doesn't get harder because the temp dropped 10 more degrees.
     
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    okay guys I get it...football in alaska is a bad idea in january....okay...
    still think it would be cool though
     
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    A football classic, yes and I loved it! A well played game - NO!

    There is most certainly a difference between a surface freeze and a deep freeze.
    At the onset of winter temperature of 28 degrees will cause the ground to freeze, but the initial freeze is only a surface freeze (say 1/8 to 1/4 inch deep), the ground under the surface still being "soft" and unfrozen. Following extreme cold or extended cold the ground will become frozen to a depth of typically 3-4 feet deep. This is when landing upon it feels like hitting concrete. When only the surface is frozen there is still some give or cushion to the ground underneath. The difference lower temperatures make is that the sub-surface ground will reach the freezing point more quickly. So either extreme temperatures below freezing or extended periods below freezing will cause the ground to become "frozen solid".

    Think about the liquid nitrogen demonstrations you likely saw, perhaps in high school science. Compare the reaction of something frozen in liquid nitrogen vs being frozen for a few minutes at roughly 28 degrees - not the same at all!
     

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