Suns sign PG Isaiah Canaan

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  1. Errntknght

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    yup
     
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    An update on Isaiah Canaan.

    Great news.

    It looks like the surgery was a success and he will be ready for training camp.

    Below is a link to the Scott Bordow article.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...-suns-isaiah-canaan-ankle-surgery/1086936001/
     
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    A long, long time ago (OK, it was 1951), Monte Irvin (the top RBI guy for the Giants) broke his ankle sliding into 2B. His protege, the rookie Willie Mays, ran out to 2B and cried.

    Sadly, Monte was never the same player. I hope that doesn't happen to Canaan and that he can compete for the backup PG position next season.
     
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    You were 9-10 when that happened and the way you're saying it seems like you remember it. I have a daughter with a memory that good - sadly, she remembers no important things like sports figures or tales.

    I remember something from (circa) 1951... Gene Conley pitched for the team opposing the Tri=City Braves. I was subbing in for the bat boy and got his(Gene's) autograph on a ball... only autograph I ever collected. Gene was a local star in high school and went on to pitch for the Boston Braves and played center for the Boston Celtics - eventually replaced by Bill Russell. You know what the bat boy's main job was - shine up the players shoes before the game.
     
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    I was 10, the first year I attended Brooklyn Dodgers games (living in New Jersey). I hated the Yankees and wasn't too fond of the Giants. But I loved Monte Irvin and Willie Mays.

    BTW, I remember a lot from the time I was 10 through the birth of rock'n'roll. But I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday.

    You younger guys will face it some day. 'Ever notice how Alzheimer's sounds so much like "old timers"? :)
     
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    Maybe your memory isn't so good after all... the birth of Rock 'n Roll can't be pushed later than 1954. That's the year disk jockey Allen Freed came up with the name and the music had been building for a few years before that. This is not from my memory as I wasn't aware of it until 1955, not being much interested in pop music - I listened to country music stations because now and then they played a true 'cowboy' ballad.



    The German word for old is alt... so I always hear 'old timers' in the name too.
     
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    Alan Freed left his Moondog Show in Cleveland to come to WINS radio in New York, where he had started to meld rhythm & blues into pop music. The term Rock'n'Roll already existed. It was (what we've come to call) ebonics for intercourse. I always wondered why Freed chose a sexual innuendo to appeal to mainstream kids, but it worked. I finally got to spend two days at the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland two years ago.

    I should not have said, "from the time I was 10 through the birth of Rock'n' Roll", but rather through the heyday of Rock'n'Roll.

    Bill Haley's "Rock Around The Clock" sold two million records in 1954, followed by his cover of Big Joe Turner's "Shake, Rattle & Roll, which sold another million. But Rock really arrived when, "Rock Around The Clock" reemerged as the theme for the movie, Blackboard Jungle" in 1955 and became the 3rd largest selling record of all time, followed by Bobby Charles' "See You Later, Alligator", another million seller for Bill Haley and his Comets. "Rock Around The Clock" was called the national anthem of Rock'n'Roll.

    Fats Domino was writing and singing Rock'n'Roll in the late '40's ("They Call Me The Fat Man"). Others say that either Ike Turner's "Rocket 88" or Bill Haley's "Crazy Man Crazy" was the first Rock'n'Roll record.

    It was also in '55 when African Americans who hadn't been allowed on the Top 40 (Tin Pan Alley) charts, except for Nat 'King' Cole, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Billy Eckstein and The Ink Spots, finally busted in. Pat Boone had covered Fats Domino's "Ain't That A Shame", The Flamingos "I'll Be Home", Little Richard's "Tutti Frutti", Ivory Joe Hunter's "I Almost Lost My Mind" and the ElDorado's "At My Front Door" and put each of them on the Top 40 charts.

    Then a strange thing happened! Pat Boone covered Little Richard's second song, "Long Tall Sally" and we, the young teenagers of New Jersey, southern Connecticut and New York bought Little Richard's original version, it made the Top 40 chart and went zooming by Pat Boone's ripoff. And the floodgates opened for all of the great black Rock'n'Roll singers and groups to hit the mainstream. Murray the K and Cousin Bruce Morrow became the other two R'n'R disc jockeys out of NYC at that time.

    I was fortunate enough to attend seven Alan Freed's Rock'n'Roll concerts at the Paramount over the early years. There were about twenty acts at each show. Fats Domino, Bill Haley, Chuck Berry, The Platters, The Everly Brothers, LaVerne Baker, Ruth Brown, Clyde McPhatter and all of the groups -- The ElDorado's, The Cadillacs, etc.

    I got a real kick out of "Shake, Rattle & Roll". Bill Haley's cover for white audiences was, "You're wearing those dresses, your hair done up so nice ... your smile is warm but your heart is cold as ice". Joe Turner's original ghetto version was, "You're wearing those dresses, the sun comes shining through ... I can't believe my eyes, all that mess belongs to you". :)

    Long live Rock'n'Roll. And, yes, I just wrote all of this from memory of sixty-four years ago. As I said, I can remember it as though it were yesterday, but I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday.
     
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    You can remember it, but are you remembering it accurately?:D:evil:
     
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    What do you disagree with :?:
     
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    One thing that has puzzled me in looking up some of these songs - the 'release date'. For example the release date of Rock Around the Clock was listed as 1960 yet I recall hearing it well before that from a recording. I was in Brazil the summer of 1957 and they played it endlessly at a dance I went to, so there's no mistake in that date. Heck, it was almost passe in the US by then. Same thing with Hound Dog (1969 listed release date) and others.

    I'm not about to argue with anything you recall. I've been reading about that era and it jibes well with what you said.
     
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    I don't know where those late release dates came from, but "Rock Around The Clock" was originally 1954 and Elvis' "Hound Dog" was '56 or perhaps '57. I think it was his third or fourth major release after "Heartbreak Hotel", "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You" and "Don't Be Cruel". I might be wrong about that, though. I'm doing it from memory.

    I don't think either of the original Kings of Rock'n'Roll changed record labels (Bill Haley was on Decca and Elvis on RCA, IIRC).

    Perhaps there were later release dates for different formats -- albums, extended play 45's, etc.

    Well, Errntknght, it's been fun reminiscing with you. When I was a kid in the '50's, my first love was the Dodgers, then Rock'n'Roll, then cars, then girls. By the time I got my driver's license, the Dodgers had moved, but Rock'n'Roll, cars and girls remained at the top of the list. Then came my college fraternity and Rock'n'Roll, cars and girls were part of that as well. :)
     
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    I found a little blurb about release dates... they can often be re-release dates and not the original release date. It appears they sometimes re-release the exact same recording, so I don't see what value it has.
     
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    If this hasn't been posted elsewhere here is an update on Canaan.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...saiah-canaan-gruesome-ankle-injury/467755002/
     

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