Suns @ Rockets game thread 1-28-18

Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by Mainstreet, Jan 28, 2018.

  1. GatorAZ

    GatorAZ Formerly known as GatorHater

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    The KT trade was to get them under the luxury tax. Really had nothing to do with the GM. Sarver cut out the middle man and called Presti himself I'm guessing.

    The Shaq trade was made because Shawn was butthurt about the accolades Steve and Amare were getting. D'Antoni wanted him out and Kerr's biggest mistake was listening to him. I'm guessing Kerr thought they needed beef to deal with Gasol/Bynum. If only he knew Bynum would've gone down that year. The Suns would've made the Finals with Marion and lost to Boston. Are my years right?
     
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    elindholm rehabilitated

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    Held by ... Mike Bratz. I knew that off the top of my head!
     
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    I agree totally. It is amazing how McDonough still has a job. He is the problem. I feel sorry for Triano because I think he is a really good coach and have no problem with him being our coach next year.

    If McD is allowed to make decisions on this roster this off season, Sarver is absolutely the worst owner in NBA history.

    Whoops - I think Sarver already has been awarded that honor.
     
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    Mainstreet Registered User Contributor

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    Unfortunately it doesn't help to keep going through it.

    GMs Mike D'Antoni, Steve Kerr, Lance Blanks doesn't help much for the sake of comparison with Ryan McDonough.
     
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    Superbone Phoenix native; Lifelong Suns Fan

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    You should have taken it.
     
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    I will say this about Ryan McDonough. The Suns sure do have a lot of assets this year. The draft is full of youngsters and Bender, Chriss might pan out. Jackson at Number for was a bad pick in my mind. You have to go scorer in this league with top picks.
     
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    I m reading this thread just now, Jackson has been very good in January, was making the progress everyone was calling for and now he is horrible because he has a terrible game?

    You on with skip bayless tomorrow serving up knee jerk hot takes like that?
     
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    Look at our record with him and where we are after five years. You literally couldn’t any worse. Just as bad? Sure, but at least there would be hope for a couple months before we realized it.
     
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    SirStefan32 Krycek, Alex Krycek

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    Looking at the record is way too simplistic. Sonics/ Thunder won 31 games before they blew it up, then they won 20, and then 23 games. The very next season they won 50 games. Now, I am NOT comparing the Suns to the Thunder, but it shows how deceiving a team's record can be.
    Obviously, Booker and Warren are not KD, Westbrook, and Harden. I am fairly sure the Suns will not win 50 games next year, even with a #1 pick.

    McD's picks have been reasonable. In 2013, Len was a reasonable pick. Noel and MCLemore are not any better, and if my memory is not failing me, those were the only other reasonable candidates at that slot. Sure, Giannis was available, and McD did pass on him. So did 13 other teams. Adams was there, McCollom was there, but a lot of teams passed on them too. in 2014, he nailed it with Warren. Bogdanovic was a solid pick too. He missed the mark on Ennis. Sure, there was Jokic, but everyone passed on him in the first round. He nailed it in 2015 with Booker. 2016, he made reasonable picks. Bender and Chriss were considered to be good prospects. Sure, I'd rather have Murrey, Sabonis, and/ or Heild than Bender and Chriss, but a lot of teams passed on those guys too. Jackson was a perfectly reasonable pick in 2017.

    Bender, Chriss, and Jackson don't look great right now, but it's way too early to write them off. We've seen flashes from each one of those guys, so I am not ready to write them off. Jackson has confidence, Bender is already a decent 3 and D player, and Chriss actually had a very good rookie season.

    I am not a fan of his trades, or the debacle that was Dragic/Bledsoe/ IT, or doubling down and taking Knight and wasting the Lakers pick (Imagine NOT having Knight, and having another mid-to late lottery pick this year!) I am not a fan of his coaching hires either. All that said, he is hardly a terrible GM, at least comparatively.
     
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    leclerc The smooth operator

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    My hand is on the blow up button. I'm about to start pounding the tank button. I'm just afraid of what that will do for morale of team/kids and especially Booker. Need to draft and develop better. That's for sure.
     
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    Well said. It is easy to second guess. The Knight trade is the biggest negative as I view it.
     
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    Chaplin Better off silent

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    How many times does Kerr himself have to say he’s to blame for the KT trade before you actually believe it?

    That said, I think the best way I can sum up my feelings about keeping McD is just to say “indifferent.” Leaning somewhat on the fire him side but pretty close to the middle.
     
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    What he says is irrelevant. Anyone with common sense realizes that trade had nothing to do with on-court impact. It was made to save the franchise money.
     
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    Chaplin Better off silent

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    Of course because some armchair fan has more knowledge than the guy directly involved.
     
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    The fact you think that was a basketball move by a GM and a not a money saving move by the owner is baffling. He was selling picks before Kerr got there and his history of overrding GM's is well documented. What's the common denominator here?
     

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