Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

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  1. Brian in Mesa

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    Count Dooku was Palpatine's next apprentice. Dooku became Darth Tyranus.
     
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    Covert Rain Father smelt of elderberries!

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    Well the Sith by nature turned to subterfuge, hiding and manipulating from the shadows. Some of the old cannon hinted that once the Sith were basically eradicated they turned to other methods (One Master & Apprentice). However, we also know that they also used "force sensitives" called the Inquisitors (via Star Wars Rebels which is canon).

    So, it's not like the Jedi could simply hunt them down. In fact, Yoda mentions that the presence of the dark side clouds even their ability to see the future or present clearly. Which is why Palpatine wasn't discovered sooner.

    The fact that they were able to take over the Senate through manipulation proves what a smart tactic that was.

    P.S. Kylo Ren is the apprentice of Snoke.
     
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    Actually, I'm super psyched about some Jedi training with Luke and Rey!
     
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    Covert Rain Father smelt of elderberries!

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    So am I. Always kind of felt like I wanted to see more.
     
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    Stout I gave my cards a victory...

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    Eh, I feel it can get into the whole "we've done this before, so we're just going to copy it" crap they did with TFA. I mean, I liked TFA, but it really walked the line.
     
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    Covert Rain Father smelt of elderberries!

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    We received a touch of it in ESB and not much else unless you count Yoda talking to younglings. It wouldn't feel like it was copied to me. In fact the video games have dived more into training and some of that stuff was cool. Honestly, it seemed like the prequels were the prime opportunity to show more of the Jedi in their prime and I felt like we barely scratched the surface.
     
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    Stout I gave my cards a victory...

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    Not my fault the franchise spent it's 'rehashing the past' equity in TFA.
     
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    Bert Why cant we be friends?

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    Speaking of rehashing...

    If we could get Daisy Ridley into a 'slave girl' situation, that wouldn't suck. :p

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    no youre not
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    You miss the real the power of the sith. It's not to shoot lightning outta his hands. It's to stir the darkness in others and harness it for the dark side. Palpatine wasn't running around the universe lightning everyone. He was insidiously playing a game of dark chess and relying on people's inner darkness to do his bidding.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Ren isn't an apprentice?
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    And I do question where Snoke came from if both palpatine and Vader died at the same time. Who trained the next sith? Or is the dark side powerful enough to just create a sith from scratch?
     
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    How much more training does she need? She already kicked the ass of the vastly superior trained Ren, who apparently was badaass enough to reduce Luke and his Jedi school to rubbles.

    Man, that decision to write their fight that way really cut the balls off what came off as a bit of a bitch character anyway. The temper tantrum throwing bad guy who kills his father, not in battle but in embrace doesn't make him scary to me as much as it makes him kinda pathetic. Getting his ass kicked by a novice right afterwards didn't do the characters any favors, IMO.
     
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    Do we even know he's a sith? Maybe he was one of Luke's first students who turned to the darkside, was excommunicated and helped turn Kylo after?

    Or he's not a sith. No one refers to him as Darth Snoke, right? All of which makes the bad guys in these movies even weaker, IMO.
     

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