Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

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    What or who is Canon? The Star Wars story connections?
     
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    Covert Rain Father smelt of elderberries!

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    The Extended Universe is out. Nothing but the movies, novelizations based on the movies, Star Wars Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebel TV shows are now canon. So, far all of them have purposely interwoven connections to each other.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_(fiction)

    In fiction, canon is the material accepted as officially part of the story in the fictional universe of that story. It is often contrasted with, or used as the basis for, works of fan fiction. The alternative terms mythology, timeline, universe and continuity are often used, with the former being especially used to refer to a richly detailed fictional canon requiring a large degree of suspension of disbelief (e.g. an entire imaginary world and history), while the latter two typically refer to a single arc where all events are directly connected chronologically. Other times, the word can mean "to be acknowledged by the creator(s)."
     
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    So it appears that this was the correct theory after all. :)

    snoke is snoke.jpg
     
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    Saw this for the second time... it was interesting. The stuff I originally liked, I liked even more and the stuff I didn’t like, I didn’t mind as much.

    The whole Snoke/Rey/Kylo sequence intercut with the Rebels fleeing/Holdo’s heroics was really aces. Great twists, turns and all action rolled up together.

    And I didn’t mind Luke being a little hinky throughout or his cockiness at the end. It was a great send off for Luke.

    But that being said, what really bothered me the most about the end and entire saga so far is that Kylo Ren is ultimately just a little bitch and no matter what they do during the movies to build him up, they tear down at the end making him look like a screaming baby. So, there’s just no bad guy who’s formidable going into the last movie, which takes the air out of the balloon for me going into the capper.

    So, stand alone, it’s pretty good... with some moments of greatness and luke’s victory helping the others escape is awesome. But as the second act of the story, it doesn’t leave me wanting all that much more.
     
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    Pretty much what it boils down to now that they wasted a good opportunity to build on all the fan debate. That's what was so annoying. Aside from the new characters, they threw the old ones out with the bath. Sooooo unnecessary.

    Took my son to see this at our IMAX and the annoying parts were still just as annoying. I did appreciate more of the FX though. Some brilliant and beautiful special FX for this film. Still love the new characters but I don't think I can forgive RJ. LOL.
     
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    Daisy Ridley is breathtaking. That's what struck me.
     
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    That she is, but for some reason her posture was awful during most of the time on the island of Four-Tittied Milk Cows. She seemed to be slumping her shoulders most of the time.. didn’t present quite as powerful/striking like that.

    Was something I noticed both times watching it.
     
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    If she's half as delightful and charming in real life as she is in interviews, she might just be the most attractive woman on the planet, err, universe.
     
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    That is funny! I thought the exact same thing!
     
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    weird, right?!
     
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    It made her arms look weird at times.
     
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    Quit looking at my girlfriend's arms, you creeps! :jedi:
     
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    Yeah, anyone who see's this happening call Silent Witness.
     
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    Saw this during our Christmas break with the family. Rey and Finn were such fantastic new characters and I couldn't wait to see these new characters on the big screen again. I had such high expectations after TFA.

    Yet I left the theater supremely disappointed...

    Where do I begin.

    First off there just seemed like too much going on. Too many sub plots and characters squeezed into one movie, many of which were just plain stupid.

    I get it, there is balance in the force. But do we really need an Evil BB8? Even Finn Vs Cpt Phasma "running into each other again" seemed like too much.

    I'm not a fan of Laura Dern and her entire character left me just shaking my head. In fact that whole space crawl chase thing was incredibly stupid IMO. I couldn't be happier that her character won't be coming back! For me the movie felt like a slow crawl through space.

    When did Luke become a total ***** and whiny bitch? And what was with milking Barney with tits? So many times the comedy in TLJ felt Forced. Pun intended.

    I hated the whole Rose/Finn dynamic. Rose was a terrible character IMO and the entire Casino thread was a complete throw away. Not to mention Benicio Del Toro’s character was one of the worst from any of the Star Wars films. I kept waiting for a Heineken bottle to show up in the Casino. OH and the scene where Rose tells Finn she loves him before she "dies" was just laughable. For me Finn lost all of his swagger and likability when he was such a great character in TFA.

    Don't get me started on Snoke. They built him up as some total badass in TFA and he turned out to be just another nobody. Instead of finding out how Snoke rose to power and seduced Ren to the dark side we got a lame casino story and giant space ships in a boring slow chase with purple haired Laura Dern inspiring nobody.

    I kept waiting for some closure on Leia but I guess she will be back. Who knew that she was actually from Krypton!

    Is there a need for a Trilogy? Seems like things were wrapped up pretty cleanly after this one.


    In the end my kids loved it and my wife and I left scratching our heads.
     

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