Several NCAA asst. basketball coaches arrested

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    He wrote the letter so the contents must be true. Right?
     
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    USC on DeAnthony Melton.
    “As a precaution, De’Anthony Melton is being held out due to a potential issue regarding eligibility,” said an official statement from USC. “De’Anthony is a valued member of the USC community and USC is working diligently to independently investigate this matter in order to confirm that De’Anthony meets the NCAA eligibility requirements.”
     
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    Nathan Fenno‏Verified [email protected]nathanfenno
    Attorneys for three defendants in the college basketball bribery case -- Christian Dawkins, Merl Code and Jim Gatto -- have filed a motion to dismiss the government's indictment against them. The motion covers one of the three pending cases in the matter.

    Nathan Fenno‏Verified [email protected]nathanfenno 23m23 minutes ago
    The motion says payments the defendants allegedly made to steer three high school players to Louisville and Miami weren't illegal: "It is not against the law to offer a financial incentive to a family ... to send their son or daughter to a particular college."

    Nathan Fenno‏Verified [email protected]nathanfenno 21m21 minutes ago
    The three defendants didn't defraud or injure the universities, the motion said, because they sought to help, not harm the schools by directing talented players to them.

    Nathan Fenno‏Verified [email protected]nathanfenno 17m17 minutes ago
    The motion accuses of the government of attempting to criminalize NCAA rules violations and notes universities have committed "thousands of violations" over the decades "which often involved conduct identical to -- or far worse than -- Defendants' here."
     
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    My understanding is that essentially the FBI said the coaches were defrauding the universities by delivering recruits who were ineligible because they'd violated amateurism rules.Just because the schools didn't KNOW they were ineligible doesn't make that ok is the argument. And again, the FBI isn't naive they aren't really saying these schools were the victims, they know perfectly well the schools are complicit in the steering of players, they're just using it as a means to an end, in order to prove a federal crime was committed they have to show the defendants acted "corruptly" and the fraud angle accomplishes that.

    Tony Bland's attorney made a similar argument that doesn't seem to have helped him at all I expect that will be the same outcome with these ones.

    The last part is just silly, everyone else does it so why should these guys get punished, that's just nonsensical, if I were the FBI and I was at all inclined to go easy on them, seeing that in a filing would tick me off
     
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    Adding to the story about lawyers asking charges be dropped against 3 men. The claim is the FBI turned over the tapes of phone calls to the lawyers, they were recording 5 phone numbers over a total of 330 days and have intercepted and recorded over 4000 calls!

    The assumption is those phone numbers included Dawkins and Sood but you really wonder who the other 3 were? Was it Gatto and the Adidas people, was it the coaches(Book, Bland etc).

    The article also again points out that Arizona is the ONLY school involved in the FBI scandal that had specific players mentioned(but not identified) that has not suspended any players.

    LA Times just said today they have a source claiming Taeshon Cherry, who just dropped his verbal to USC, was in fact player #8 named in the FBI scandal that committed to USC. His family denies it and insists they decommitted because USC backed off him out of fear since Tony Bland had recruited him. THey didn't mention that he also bailed on signing his NLI to USC, 3 days before he was scheduled to sign it.

    This is such a fascinating story because there's so many involved and so many possible outcomes but the Arizona angle is by far the most interesting. Every single school who had reason to believe a player on their roster was involved, suspended the player, except for Arizona, who has 3. They either know something about their case that none of the other schools know in theirs, or they're rolling the dice.
     
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    Forgot to add if you read the story recently about Brian Bowen the kid who got paid to go to Louisville, he says emphatically he didn't know, is an innocent victim, and that he told Sean Miller and Arizona he was going to Zona if either Alkins or Trier turned pro, neither did, so he went to Louisville. The problem with his story is in his own words in late April, he had a list of 5 schools that did NOT include Louisville, they were not a school he had any involvement with. about 4 weeks later he signed with Louisville in early June. Trier had announced he was staying in early April, and Alkins announced in late May, a full month after Bowen listed his teams and didn't mention Louisville at all. he's now saying Louisville was his 2nd choice all along he was just waiting on Trier and Alkins. Pitino made it clear when he was contacted to ask about any interest in Bowen, and it was literally days before Alkins announced he was staying at ARizona.

    So the timeline doesn't fit what Bowen says happened at all. I do believe he was going to Arizona if either Alkins or Trier went pro, that part is true, but it appears what happened is when those 2 players stayed, he suddenly opened up and Louisville jumped in because Pitino apparently asked Adidas to go get a kid who was a Nike kid.
     
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    Brian Bowen committed to USC and will apply for immediate reinstatement by the NCAA. Oh yeah, South Carolina USC not Southern California USC.

    And speaking of USC, LA TImes is reporting DeAnthony melton's status the rest of the season should be determined any day now by USC. In addition to allegations family friend Dave Elliott got 5K from the agent in the FBI scandal, in investigating that claim USC apparently unearthed evidence he may have taken all sorts of additional benefits when travelling to Las Vegas allegedly to meet with the agent. USC apparently suspected the agent paid for his airfare, hotel etc.

    The lawyer for Melton said they expect resolution soon but they don't know what way USC is going to rule, they have no idea if he's going to be allowed to play or not.
     
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    It's a weird story, the family apparently told the LA Times that USC told them they hope by holding him out this year it enhances his chances of playing next year.I have no idea if he plans on coming back or not but that seems to imply they think if he sits out a whole year, when the NCAA gets info from the FBI, they'll take this year as time served for Melton.

    If what's public is all he did, I think 18 games is enough and they should play him, the fact that they're not makes me suspect they found more that they haven't made public.
     

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