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Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by Ouchie-Z-Clown, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. 3rdside

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    Well I've become slightly concerned that a Ball Booker backcourt is defensively awful but as long as we score more than the other side...

    Agreed entirely otherwise.


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    I think this is a great question. I really do not know much about Brook but he has been a consistent 20 point scorer since he came into the league. He appears to be a poor rebounder and I do not think he is any good on defense.

    However a big three of Lopez, Booker and Bledsoe (or PG we pick in the draft) could be pretty good especially if we could get him without giving up any of our draft picks or youngsters.

    I really think we will need to upgrade the center position going forward and Len is not the answer, IMO. Could Lopez be a 4 or 5 year fix?
     
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    Len > Brook Lopez.

    Everythign that is relevant Len does better, younger, cheaper, better rebounder, better defender.

    The only thing Brook Lopez does better than Len is scoring.
     
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    Alrighty. Let's just forget I said it...Thanks much. :blush:
     
  5. SirStefan32

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    This is right up there with Magic Johnson not being a point guard.
     
  6. Russ Smith

    Russ Smith The Original Whizzinator Contributor

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    I saw the title and thought you were complaining about too many playoff games on at the same time.

    But I agree it's just like the football board and the endless draft stuff there.
     
  7. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I can't remember ever feeling like we have his much over analysis.
     
  8. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I don't like Brook bc:

    Age doesn't match our time horizon

    Not a rebounder/defender

    Really want a YOUNG deandre Jordan with this crew
     
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    slinslin Welcome to Amareca

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    Please tell us about how good Domantas Sabonis is again.

    The fact that you still can't do anything else but taking a quote out of context and paraphrasing it to dilute its meaning shows it all about you.

    "Positions in basketball were created for the novice to follow the game" Jalen Rose.

    You are a novice. Just because Magic Johnson ran the offense does not make him a starter at the PG position. There is a reason why the phrase "point forward" was coined for Magic. The truth is that by basketball positions Magic started as a forward for the vast majority of his career. He rarely ever guarded players labeled as "PGs" and he was not defended by players labeled as "PGs" and for the most part started alongsige two guards one of which was usually labeled a "PG".

    Lebron James is also running the offense in Cleveland, maybe that makes it easier for you to understand since I am pretty sure you know that Lebron James is categorized as a forward despite running the show.

    I know this is challenging for you to grasp.
     
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    I think it's because there's so many Suns fans and you have a high pick.

    I agree though it's obvious none of us change our opinions.
     
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    Russ Smith The Original Whizzinator Contributor

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    That's where your coaches come into play. Ball is a year removed from a system where they pressed all game and he often played the back line in the press, he's going to have to be coached in the NBA on how to defend, but he improved leaps and bounds at UCLA as a defender so there's no reason to believe that won't continue in the NBA, if he has a good coach.

    same with Booker he's improved significantly every year.
     
  12. Chaplin

    Chaplin Better off silent

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    Brook Lopez is a terrible defender, and almost certainly will be massively overpaid.
     
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    So... was James Worthy the PG or SG playing next to Byron and Magic? Or was it AC Green who was the 3rd guard on those teams from 86-90? And was it Kurt Rambis or Larry Sprigs who started next to Byron in 1984? I mean, I remember Kurt on the Suns and he was a MEAN SG! Must have been Kurt, right? What about back in 81... was it Rambis again as the starter or Mitch Kupchak as the "3rd guard"? Or Jamaal Wilkes who was slid from SF to PF?

    Yeah... keep talking about things you have consistently been shown to be clueless about.
     
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    If Golden State is really a better team without Durant, could he be available in th FA market this summer?
    I haven't paid much attention to Lopez lately, so here are my questions.

    1. Is he in decline? I know he has had a history of injuries, which tend to shorten a career.
    2. We need a rim protector and rebounder. Can he fill that role? I tend to think not. We don't need the offense so much.

    The idea of getting a FA center is a good one. I am just not sure Lopez is the solution. In fact, Len is probably a better fit.
     
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    Lopez is a good offensive force...That much I do know. I haven't watched Lopez play so I really don't know his overall game.

    Far as Len being a good fit for the Suns or being better than Lopez. Ahh...I cant wrap my mind around that one. :eek:
     

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