OT: Best QB Of All Time From Each Team

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  1. Jetstream Green

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    I totally agree about Ben over Bradshaw, Bradshaw was a game manager who happen to be clutch when the post season started but Ben is clearly the better QB, but... no, Ryan is not as good as Bartkowski no matter what modern generated stats say
     
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    Seahawks should have Warren Moon
     
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    Bartkowski never won anything aside from 1 playoff game. I would even put Jeff George ahead of Bartkowski as the best Falcon QB.
     
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    moklerman Warner = Playoffs

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    Van Brocklin won a championship too and was doing things ahead of his time. HOFer and longer tenure as a Ram than Warner. I could easily put Warner ahead of Van Brocklin but I'd say it's arguable. But I think Warner was clearly better than Hart. I'd take Lomax over Hart. I just didn't think Warner should be the top for two teams.
     
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    Moon is clearly below Wilson and Hasselback if we're only talking about his time in Seattle.
     
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    Well, Van Brocklin did win titles with 2 different teams.
     
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    moklerman Warner = Playoffs

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    I don't think it's clear, though. You said it yourself, when Bradshaw was called upon to be more than a game manager in the post season he could. That's why I say it's important to remember just how run-heavy those Pittsburgh teams were before looking only at Bradshaw's numbers. Dude had a gun and was aggressive. Hardly the traits of what I'd call a game manager. Put him in the pass-happy NFL of today and he'd have inflated stats too.

    Among his peers, he was a top QB many years and he had 4 rings. Granted, he had a lot of support but most great teams are built that way. Roger Staubach didn't win it all without help. Or Montana, etc.
     
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    Bradshaw had some of the most clunker games of any QB in the regular season which you would like to call elite, but I respect his achievements and what he accomplished... but I would still take Big Ben, though I personally hate the guy's character but dig Bradshaw's quirky one lol
     
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    Those Steelers teams had what ten Hall of Famers? Although Lynn Swann is probably the worst HOF ever.
     
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    The 1950`s era SF 49ers had several HOF players yet never won a NFL championship and i am not sure they ever even won a playoff game during the 50`s after moving to the NFL from the AAFC.

    QB YA Tittle
    RB Joe Perry
    RB John Henry Johnson
    RB Hugh " THE KING" McElhenny
    OT Bob ST. Clair
    DT--Leo Nomellini

    plus they had several consistent star ProBowl players and very solid players
    Billy Wilson WR *
    Gordie Soltau WR-K*
    Bruce Boseley OC
    Charley Krueger DT*
    Bob Toneff DT
    Marion Campbell DE
    Dicky Moegle S
    John Brodie QB was just coming into the league backing up Tittle

    Bunch of talent on the team yet never put it all together to win the championship.
     
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    moklerman Warner = Playoffs

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    Ben's had some clunkers too. Was it 5 or 6 picks he threw against JAX last year?
     
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    The one thing about Bradshaw, I don't recall him ever leading the Stealers to any great comeback wins. The Immaculate Reception was just blind luck but I can't recall Bradshaw leading his team on any heart stopping game winning drive. Ben had 3 alone last year and should have had 4.
     
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    Bert Jones and Dan Pastorini gettin no love:(
     
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    Would you put Bert Jones ahead of Payton Manning or Johnny U? And Pastorini was good but Warren Moon was far better. Fun Pastorini fact that some may not know...he has a Super Bowl ring. He was on the 1980 Raiders.
     
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    Bradshaw played in a time where guys were put in to the hall of fame for making one or two catches like we see in every game these days.
    lynn Swann was good...
    but give Bradshaw Hines Ward and Antonio Brown and the dude wouldnt have enough fingers for all the rings....especially if you added in the convenient fact that DB's are no longer allowed to actually play defense.
     
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