Miller once again does it again!

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  1. Russ Smith

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    They said Akot has jumpers knee in both knees which is pretty common at that age, I had it at that age too it hurts like hell. I've seen him more than once when he does play on the bench with ice onboth knees so I'm inclined to think that's legit.

    Cherry plays for Brad Leaf now but I don't expect him to be involved with UCLA he's a Nike kid and with Wilkes likely staying at UCLA I don't see him picking us. My guess is SDSU or Gonzaga, SDSU is the local school and the Zags seem to do well with kids like that who are talented but need direction. I've heard multiple times that if UCLA had fired Alford after all the flying of banners stuff, TJ Leaf would have gone to SDSU or Indiana(not UCLA) and probably SDSU, so I'm guessing Brad Leaf will help them get Cherry.
     
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    Have you heard anything since the season started???? There is a little over 2 months left in the season and since there is nothing that can be done at this point of the season, anything new or punishments levied will not be announced until after the NC game IMO. The NCAA is not trying to have the rest of the season impacted by this scandal, they probably have a deal with FBI to wait until after the season. The FBI is still investigating behind the scenes but they probably will not make anything public until they have everything which most likely not be in the next 2 months.
     
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    I assume he means that Arizona can't investigate until the FBI allows them to.They reportedly told Arizona and the NCAA to wait until they were done so as not to mess up the FBI investigation. That's presumably why Arizona hasn't done anything else on the 3 kids, and is playing all 3 and presumably just hoping the penalty for doing so won't be severe.

    For whatever reason apaprently USC wasn't told the same thing, they helped Melton hire a lawyer and they found this tape that they thought was going to clear Melton, but then apparently found more dirt on him and ruled him ineligible. Arizona isn't doing that same digging right now.
     
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    The FBI is law enforcement. They don’t make deals with NCAA. To even think that’s a possibility is absurd.
     
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    FWIW LA TImes story this morning says unnamed sources have positively identified Taeshon Cherry as being player #8 in the FBI story. His family outright denies it and says he decommitted from USC because USC backed off him and stopped talking to him several weeks ago.

    Of course they don't mention that Cherry had a scheduled signing party at his school to sign his NLI to USC, and then 3 days before it, he transferred to Foothills Christian HS and cancelled the party and wound up never signing with USC. I'm guessing that had something to do with USC backing off him.

    So multiple sources say he's player #8, his family insists he's not. I'm still guessing SDSU or Gonzaga for him.
     
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    Quinnerly and Cherry will be headlining the Big Baller Brand league.
     
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    OK dude...got me.
     
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    Especially when it's the NCAA and/or the shoe companies is ultimately the target of the investigation. The FBI isn't going to waste their time on nabbing a few coaches pocketing a couple thousand bucks, there's bigger fish out there.
     
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    I get what you mean but literally the first people to get indicted were the coaches.They only indicted them to get them to cooperate of course, they weren't the target you're right, but they're already indicted.

    The NCAA is stuck now because the FBI is going after the big fish as you said and until they're done, they've told the NCAA not to investigate because they think it might harm the FBI investigation.

    Schools that did their own investigations and brought information to the NCAA, like Alabama, were dealt with, schools that did their own investigations and decided to suspend players are still suspending them. And of course Arizona is the outlier here the only school that knows they have players mentioned in the FBI probe and is playing them.
     
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    This of course is misleading. Just because certain schools did their own investigations doesn't mean they've been dealt with by the NCAA and/or the FBI. But again it's not the schools the FBI wants.

    As I've said from the beginning I'm guessing more or less nothing comes from this, at worst a one year postseason ban. But I can see how it fits you and the rest of the conference's wet dreams that the whole thing will come crashing down even though it's extremely hypocritical if not self-defeating.
     
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    I meant for example Alabama and Sexton who got suspended and then reinstated first by Alabama and then the NCAA. Auburn has some kids they suspended they're still waiting on. USC does too. Louisville self suspended too.

    it's not misleading to say Arizona is the only team involved that hasn't done this, it's true, they are literally the only school who had players mentioned in the FBI story that didn't self suspend.

    That doesn't mean theyr'e wrong, they may be right those kids may be innocent, they may be smarter than all the other schools but the fact is they're the only school that did not take any suspensions of players, just a coach, Book.

    I don't know what the outcome will be. My guess is that the 2 guys who talked to an agent and said they were willing to sign, but apparently took no money, will get the same suspension Sexton did, which was only 1 game. My guess is the kid who already took money and is now playing will get a longer suspension, somewhere between 3 and 9 games depending on how much money he actually got since that wasn't detailed in the story. OF course the key question is will that be it or will the NCAA tack on more because he was allowed to play and because he filed paperwork with the school and the NCAA stating he hadn't violated amateur status when in fact he had. We don't really know what the NCAA will do there it's sort of new territory.

    Arizona may well be right in their approach of roll the dice play them all and see what the NCAA does. But let's be clear they are in fact the only school doing that approach, if it works they're geniuses, if it doesn't they're going to get hit harder than any other school because they did it.

    List the names of the kids involved in the FBI scandal and then see how many of them are either at Arizona, committed to arizona or had arizona in the final 2. I count at least 7, the 3 on the current roster, the recruit, and Bowen, Little and Cherry. That's 7 kids in 3 classes, that seems like a pretty high ratio but maybe that's the norm it's just not normally caught by the FBI so we don't hear about it.
     
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    Not that I think it's going to happen but apparently Brandon Williams was the only top 100 recruit contacted by Lavar Ball who indicated he might be interested in playing in Lavars proposed league for kids who don't want to go to college for one year. Williams basically said he wants to keep his options open, and I don't for a minute think Lavar will actually get the league going I think it's entirely to give Gelo and Melo a place to play in the US and it's not going to happen.

    Williams is apparently averaging over 30 PPG with a 52 point game since he started playing for Crespi this year.
     
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    If Miller is gone, he’s gone. If Miller stays, he stays.
     

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