Jrue Holiday

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  1. elindholm

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    The Pelicans have a monster payroll -- seventh highest in the league -- and aren't exactly lighting up the standings. Let's imagine that they decide to cut costs, either at the deadline or this summer, and try to move Holiday, who is owed $105 million over the next four seasons. Let's also imagine that Holiday's contract is viewed across the league as value-neutral at best, and the Pelicans resign themselves to getting very little back in return.

    Could Holiday be a fit for the Suns? Let's say they move out a dead weight contract or two and a second-round pick.
     
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    That's not a bad idea...

    I like his efficiency as a scorer, and he would be a huge upgrade at the point guard position. I wouldn't want to do it this season at the expense of our draft standing, but if we end up with no path to Young or Doncic (or luck into one of the elite big men instead), he could be a really good target imho.
     
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    I really liked him and Lou Williams when they were in Philli, but I cannot remember how good his defense is. He is a good enough shooter, a good enough distributor, and a competent defender if I am remembering correctly, but that contract is awful.
     
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    I was going to suggest George Hill, but he is a bit older. Still might be a good option for the next two years while the Suns try to acquire his replacement.
     
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    I have vague recollection of him rubbing Rudy Gobert the wrong way...like Gobert hinted that Hill was a ball hog? I could be wrong.

    Edit: Here's what I found...

    After Gobert called out some unsaid teammates for focusing only on getting points and not competing, George Hill came out with this:

    "It could've been a little immaturish, but he learned from it," Hill said prior to Monday's tipoff against New Orleans. "That's what bad teams and bad teammates do. He didn't mean any harm and he apologized for it. He just wants to win." http://www.deseretnews.com/user/com...-team-meeting-after-Rudy-Goberts-remarks.html
     
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    Actually I was thinking Spencer Dinwiddie.

    He's 6-6, 210
    Loves the PG position
    Improved strength since college has made him a better defender
    Averages a ridiculous 4.85 A/TO
    Smart player
    Only makes about $1.5M

    He'd be a great fit next to Booker and Warren.
     
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    The only way trading for Holiday makes sense is to unload Knight in the trade but I'd rather keep Knight, he's cheaper. I think we need to look for young PG's looking to establish themselves, not finished products like Holiday who are what they are.
     
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    You know, I've watched the Nets four times this season, and I was impressed by Dinwiddie each time. He in under contract for another year, and I am not sure as to what Brooklyn would want in return.
     
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    I'll take whoever for Brandon Knight. I never want to see B(lac)K(hole) play for the Suns again.
     
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    I would prefer Dinwiddie over Holliday. He is bigger, better defender, younger and maybe attainable.

    If Brooklyn really wants to keep him, then maybe they would deal DAR.
     
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    I like both the Holiday and Dinwiddie ideas.

    Both players might be available at the trade deadline. If the Suns are not looking to get more ping pong balls, then why not. I like that Holiday is wrapped up for a long period of time and that Dinwiddie is on the rise. It may come down to how the Suns view their future salary situation with Devin Booker coming up for an extension.

    Knight, a first round and something more might work for Holiday.

    The Nets would probably take a protected first round pick for Dinwiddie.

    Based upon salary, Dinwiddie appears the best option and he is younger.
     
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    IMO Holliday is a negative contract, but its all relative. I don't think we would have wanted to pay Bledsoe that money and I think Bledsoe is a better point guard.
     
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    The fact that Holiday is 27 makes this discussion a non-starter and there's no wiggle room there.
     
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    Knight would have to be included in the trade to make it a realistic option. I think Holiday would only be 31 or 32 when his contract ran out so this is not terrible. However, I do not know anything about his attitude or injury situation.
     
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    Why?
     

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