Food for Thought taken from the Browns' Forum

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  1. SissyBoyFloyd

    SissyBoyFloyd Registered

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    I have never heard of this take of him prior to reading this. Makes you thinks in terms of CP and our situation though, at least it does me.

    "Bruce Arians was a disaster for CLE and PIT (yeh he was on the CLE playoff team and PIT won championships in spite of him) so I never thought that Carson Palmer would suddenly blossom under Bruce Arians, but I was proven very wrong on that one.

    At least Bruce Arians is consistent.

    First he got Tim Couch killed. Then Roethlisberger was frequently carted-off. Then Carson Palmer was sacked 40 times in 2016. His QB's are either #1 in getting sacked or near the top of the list. The Steelers openly said that they got rid of Bruce Arians to lengthen Ben's career. Now, Carson Palmer goes from IR to retirement."
     
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    My retort: 0-16

    Injuries happen in the NFL.
     
  3. SissyBoyFloyd

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    Yes, but they can only go up from there. And who wouldn't envy their draft situation at the time. Oh what the Cards could do with a draft like that! It would be fun to say the least.
     
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    It is not like Carson Palmer retired at age 27. This was a common criticism of Arians, but I would ask Carson what he thought of playing in AZ. I doubt he would share the same feelings as some idiots from the Factory of Sadness.
     
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    masterphomeg http://ronevansrealty.com

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    Whis had a similar offense, that asked the QB to wait until the last second...and often took a lot of hits and sacks.

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    A system where you run long routes can leave QB's for big hits. Perhaps Arians sells out to the pass on passes a bit more then the Steelers wanted. Lord knows we were on gameday threads wishing for some chip blocks and such.

    Ben loves Bruce, and probably his offense too.

    Maybe the Steelers saw that with Arians they would feel the need to invest more heavily on the OL due to the system characteristics and that messed with their organizational plan.

    Besides, Palmer's injuries were a bit fluky. Almost non-contact ACL and a broken arm from getting hit in the front. Don't think Arians's offense played a role in that.
     
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    Even Blaine Gabbert loved this offense... yes, a aging QB is more prone to get hurt in a Arians' offense but Palmer dug this style too :)
     
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    What I got out of that:

    Cleveland had a playoff team?????????????????????
     
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    They probably said the same thing when they won one game last season... wrong and wrong. It’s the Browns, they will create a new low lower than 0-16
     
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    my counter:

    Roethilisberger got sacked a great deal before Arians, during Arians and after Arians. Ben R likes to hold the ball, regardless of offense

    Tim Couch got sacked a great deal before Arians, his first year under Arians, and then the 2nd and 3rd years under Arians his sacks went down significantly.
     
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    I think just I heard Hue Jackson asking someone to hold his beer for him.
     
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    I see your comment, and raise you a Pete Carroll, because Russell Wilson doesn't get hit a lot......right ?
     
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    My response:

    Why are you on a Browns message board?
     
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    I’ll bet Arians could have won more than one game in two seasons in Cleveland.
     
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    Palmer injuries as a Cardinal:
    2014-Torn ACL, non-contact injury
    2015-Dislocated finger on throwing hand, freak accident hitting a helmet
    2017-Broken arm getting sacked

    Only 1 injury from a sack


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