Evaluating Triano

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  1. Poop Head

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    Warren needs to show he has a respectable outside shot more than actually develop a good 3 point shot just so defenses can't sag off of him. He doesn't need to become a volume 3 point shooter who shoots more than 1 or 2 a game, just take them when they're open. Kind of like what Tucker did while he was here.
     
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    Most of all, Devin Booker wants the Suns to keep Triano.

    The same can be said of Alex Len.

    I am one of those who are not against keeping Len for the right price.

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    Steve Nash, Devin Booker, Alex Len. Good group to have in your corner. I am not sure Triano wants the job though. He likes being an assistant.
     
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    If Triano is not hired as the next head coach, he should be strongly recommended as an assistant coach. I'd like for the Suns to keep him in the organization
     
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    Sometimes the most reluctant leaders make the best ones. He's more than proven himself in the early going here. The team just seems to respond to his professional approach. 11-18 since he took over. Plus 2-4 without Booker.
     
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    The team wanted to keep Watson also. While I value Booker's input and think the team should listen to him and take his word into account I'm not sure they should use that as reasoning to possibly make the same mistake twice.
     
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    I'm in no rush to vote on keeping him - by this time last year, I knew I wanted to see no more of Watson and I was already leery of Horny about this long into his first year. So far, no red flags for Triano but I want to see how much player developement he gets from the guys the rest of the year. He's added some players and that's all gone quite well - though I am getting impatient to see Peters on the floor. It will be interesting to see how he handles incorporating him, Reed and Sauce into the rotations. He's going to have his hands full.

    It's a deep team with Book being the only real standout so far. Even Len does not stand out that much (in the expected, downward, direction.) Ulis has been quite a disappointment as a floor general compared to last year and I am loathe to lay that at Triano's feet. Mike James hasn't looked as good as we hoped for as a playmaker either so its possible Triano is the common problem. Canaan will give up another data point. If he gets worse the longer he plays we will have to wonder what is going on.
     
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    So far, I like Triano. He coaches basketball. I know the players like him, which is not bad.

    Len has looked so much better under Triano. He has done something interesting with Len. While Triano is alternating games with Monroe and Chandler, Len is playing solid minutes every game. He seems to have a much better sense of what he can do and what is expected of him. And do look now, but Alex Len is one of the best rebounders in the NBA.
     
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    Just some further thoughts on Triano.

    1. He has gone 11-18 since taking over--without any benefit of training camp.
    2. He did this with the Bledsoe distraction
    3. He did this without an NBA worthy pg.
    4. 7 of those 18 losses were without his best player in Booker.
    5. The team is actually running a discernible offense now.
    6. Alex Len has prospered under his coaching. He has managed Len well and put him in a position to succeed.

    He is definitely making a case for himself. The funny thing is that I do not know if he really wants to be a head coach.

    Many pundits were projecting the Suns as the worst team in the NBA this year, and that was WITH Bledsoe.
     
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    Triano would be an ideal mentor for an assistant coach to eventually take over the team but it seems these situations never work out.
     
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    Len's transformation is remarkable. His skill level has not improved, but he has been assigned a role in which his skill set can be maximized. I give Triano credit for that. Most coaches, even big-name ones, come in with a "system" and ask the players to conform with it. Triano, by contrast, has taken a collection of spare parts that don't fit all that well together and figured out a way to make something out of it. It's a more sophisticated, more difficult, and less ego-driven concept of what it means to be an NBA coach. Maybe it wouldn't work for many years or with a team that's already very good, but it's getting decent results now, and that shows that Triano has real skill, not just a crib sheet of catchwords masquerading as coaching knowledge.
     
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    To me, the fact that 7 of his 11 losses were without Booker is profound.

    Suns without Triano 0-3
    Suns without Booker 2-5
    Suns with Triano and Booker 9-13
     
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    Really want to see what happens when Reed and Sauce come back. But to all the Len haters. If I was GM, I would be calling his agent today for a sit down.
     
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    I would too. But I would be praying he doesn’t turn into Omer Asik, who looked like he was going to be great when Houston signed him.
     
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    So now Jay is winning without Booker. 3 of their last 4. Umm, if you asked me how many games this team could win in a season without Booker, I might have said 3. It's uncanny what he's doing with this squad.

    Jay continues to prove his metal.
     

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