Cards save $14 million with Palmer retirement

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  1. football karma

    football karma formerly known as En Fuego

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    One last item i forgot: The team needs go give DJ a new contact. that wont be cheap.
     
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    I'll go $75 that the Cards do not finish in last place
     
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    They don't and they could tag him in the future, which is likely a cheaper option.
     
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    Tip of hat to Mike Disner and Steve Keim. Just at the time cards are hiring a new coach, there is decent amount of cap space and draft picks.

    Still cannot process that cardinals are professionally run now. Well Done.
     
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    Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier on the cap to do an extension vs franchise tag? With the tag, all that $ goes against the immediate cap, but an extension can spread the $ across the life of the contract.



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    This shouldn't be a concern for at least two more years. He averaged 2.1 YPC this year. Andre Ellington had a couple of promising seasons, too.
     
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    Boooooo!!!!:)^^
     
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    I am with K9 on this.Wait on DJ until his rookie contract ends and then use franchise tag if necessary. Team will have a better picture by then.
     
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    No rush and given the working span of a running back, Tag may be the cheaper route long-term.
     
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    football karma formerly known as En Fuego

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    on David Johnson

    all the reasons listed are obvious to his agent as well. You likely get a discount today vs waiting until he hits unrestricted free agency and you start down the franchise tag route.

    Further -- if you beleive that its going to take the Cards a couple offseasons to get back into the playoff / contender mix: i want the DJ cap hit earlier than later -- i want to save cap space for "the window" when adding one more key veteran is necessary
     
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    Only Nelson is under contract there. We have Fitz (if he returns), Nelson, and Williams. I don't think they're going to break the bank if we were to bring back Golden or Brown, but are they a fit for the new coach's offense? Better than some of the other WRs out there that could be had for the same price? That I don't know.
     
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    You can always create cap space for "one more key veteran." If David Johnson is available for a discount right now, is it a greater discount than the $709k he's scheduled to make in 2018? How much more would you be willing to pay out to ensure he's under contract to, say, age 31 (he'll turn 27 next year)?

    The franchise tag number in 2019 is likely to be around $15M. I don't see a need to guarantee, say, $10M right now for a guy who was averaging 2.1 YPC the last time we saw him.
     
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    are you souring on DJ? if you are, you must be really panicking about our O moving forward. he's the only bright spot outside of fitz
     
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    I'm not, but spending money on running back is a fool's errand. Last year we were 7-8-1 with David Johnson; this year we were 8-8 without him. Yes, he probably makes life easier for a rookie QB because he can catch passes out of the backfield, but I'm not going to guarantee $10M to him when I can have him for one more year at $800k.

    Would you rather have David Johnson for three years and $5M per year, or Alvin Kamara for 4 years and $3M total? That's the reality of the runningback situation in the NFL today.
     

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