Discussion in 'Arizona State' started by Dback Jon, Dec 11, 2017.
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14th in his final season was the highest that team ever got.
This is also their first time being ranked since then.
IMO the biggest and most important test for this team will be playing UofA. The Wildcats are not eager to play 2nd fiddle to ASU Basketball, even if it's just right now.
Doug HallerVerified [email protected]DougHaller 5m5 minutes ago
Arizona State was included on all 65 AP Top 25 ballots. Five voters slotted the Sun Devils at No. 1. Lowest ranking: 12.
Looking back at the season the Devils should never been rank above 20th. The Devils had two impressive wins in their 12-0 start. Their non conference schedule was a joke to prepare the team for PAC 12 play where the Devils lost 11 games.
Playing teams as, Northern State, San Diego, Az Christian, Idaho State, San Diego State, Northern Arizona, San Francisco, Longwood, Pacific is not how you prepare the Devils for PAC 12 play.
Hurley need height not just speed. The team placed way to much on hitting the 3's. NIT is the best this team will get...
It wasn't that bad of a OOC
Kansas (top 5)
Xavier (top 5)
Vanderbilt (usually good)
Kansas State (likely Tourney team)
San Diego State (usually good)
Northern State and AZ Christian were exhibitions, every team does something similar. And every team schedules lower-level teams for home games:
Look at Duke:
Elon, Utah Valley, Southern, Furman, Portland State, South Dakota, and St. Francis to go along with
Michigan State, Indiana, Texas and Florida - ASU's OOC was tougher than that.
ASU's non conference schedule was pretty damn good. And this is coming from a wildcat fan, their top 5-10 ranking was totally deserved.
I dunno if the Arizona loss took their swagger or exposed their serious interior problems, but they were not the same team after.
They went from being clutch to gagging away games at the line against what was a pretty crappy pac12 this year.
If they make the field I wouldn't want to see em, but this total collapse makes it really doubtful they get in.
Completely dependent on the other conference championships. ASU is rooting for all chalk. If a team like Oregon wins the PAC-12 tournament, ASU is in big trouble. Obviously, Xavier and @KU give them a reason to be hopeful but this is not ideal to be sweating it out on Sunday.
It helped that two teams that IMHO have a weaker case, NC State and Florida State, also both lost today in their first round game.
They lost all of their confidence. Once teams started beating them up on the inside...they just kind of folded. They stopped attacking the rim, and relied completely on the 3, so it was just a recipe for disaster. My dog could shoot better free throws than they did late in games...that's how bad it was.
I guess I am getting old. I don't know what "all chalk" even means. Yeah we had some killer wins early but not enough talent to continue in the long haul. We do not have the horses other teams do, but considering what we have, well, at least we showed improvement, but have proven we don't have the team to compete for the entire season and the tournament.
And yeah TJ, I know I could google it but you probably could explain it better.
Even though I am an ASU guy and native of the valley, once we are out of the picture I hope U of A represents the state well.
We know the difference, but the rest of the country confuses ASU an U of A all the time. For instance, I am in another state wearing and ASU shirt and they say "you guys have had a great basketball team for a long time" I just smile and say "yeah". ASU first, Arizona next.
As an ASU guy, I admire your ability to see both sides and you are completely right.
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