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  1. Mitch

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    If there is one team looking for a veteran starting QB to sign to a 4-5 year deal that should appeal to Nick Foles, it is the Arizona Cardinals.

    Reasons Why a Trade to Arizona Should Appeal to Foles:

    * Starter from day 1 and the next 4-5 years, possibly more.
    * Both he and his wife, Tori Moore, went to University of Arizona, where they met.
    * Perfect location, family-wise: Tori from Brea, CA (33 miles SE of LA), Nick from Austin, TX. Much closer to their families and their alma mater. Big consideration now that they have their daughter Lily.
    * Mike McCoy is a good match as OC. Would cater the offense to Foles' strengths.
    * Gets to pass to a HOFer in Fitz.
    * Gets to feed a budding superstar RB/WR in David Johnson.
    * Gets a potentially dominant defense under Wilks and Holcomb.
    * Warmer climate.

    Some are saying that the Eagles won't trade Foles because of the uncertainty as to when Carson Wentz is able to return---but when you look closer at their situation it would make sense to trade him asap.

    Reasons Why the Eagles Should Trade Foles asap:

    * The Eagles are up against the cap and this would save them $7M.
    * Foles' stock will never be higher.
    * Wentz won't have to deal with the pressure of having a revered Super Bowl MVP along side him.
    * Wentz is way ahead of schedule to return.
    * They like QB Nate Sudfeld, whom they have been grooming behind Wentz and Foles.
    * They could also re-sign Chase Daniel or another backup for cheap.
    * They could get a 1st round pick (#15 from Cardinals).

    For those who are saying no way to giving up the #15 pick---the Cardinals were going to have to draft a QB there anyway, and with Foles, he puts the Cardinals immediately back in contention for the next 4-5 years or more.

    There will be competition for Foles---early 2nd round picks---but if the Cardinals are going to beat the competition they would have to put the #15 pick on the table. Would the Browns, Broncos or Jets give up the #4, #5 or #6 pick for Foles? Likely not. They could offer a package of picks starting with their early 2nd rounders---but hey if you are the Eagles and you can pick up the #15 pick---you take it, plus a 1st rounder gives them a young starter for 5 years, not 4.

    If we have learned anything about acquiring a QB...the Cardinals have to push their chips to the middle of the table. if they think they can keep trying to defer the decision until the 2nd round or at a bargain price, you wind up where the Cardinals are now, without a QB and a clear direction.

    Added Reasons for Cardinals to trade for Foles:

    * Creates a huge buzz heading into the season.
    * They get an experienced QB who has performed brilliantly on the brightest stage.
    * They can play Foles for $8M in his first year (use cap space to build the OL, WR, TE spots around him) and have a 4 year extension in place.
    * They won't have to pay the $28M+ a year that Kirk Cousins is asking for.
    * The last time the Cardinals signed a Super Bowl MVP, he took them to their 1st Super Bowl.

    Today on his show, Dan Bickley is also of the mindset that the Cardinals offer the Eagles the #15 pick. He asks the perfect question: "If you don't want Kirk Cousins...and you don't want Nick Foles, of the QBs who are available, who do you want instead?"
     
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    I just don't see why the eagles would trade him away if they do not know Wentz status for the opener.
     
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    With Foles Cards needs to bring the Eco system that's behind his success. 3 terrific receivers, an all-pro type TE,top #3 OL and oh by the way bring in Doug Peterson or Frank Reisch to scheme and call plays. If it can be done, yes, Foles will deliver for Arizona and #1 round pick is worth trading him for.
     
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    When wetz will be back in week 1 or mid season, a superbowl Mvp should be pleased to sit on the bench?
    He is like a legend for them, they will satisfy his request of getting the starter role somewhere else
     
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    I don't think the Eagles will take the best offer, if they do trade Foles, I think they will let Foles dictate the trade so that it becomes a win-win for both himself and the organization.

    So the actual draft pick becomes secondary to getting Foles excited with the idea of starting over with the Cardinals.
     
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    You saw what Foles did with Chris Clement last night. Imagine what he could do with DJ.
     
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    This. Well, not only this, but I have no interest in trading our top pick for a guy who has struggled mightily at times - when given the keys to the car in our own division, he crumbled.

    Admittedly, his last two games were incredible. But really, he's run hot and cold throughout his career and I'd rather pay Cousins or suck it up with a rookie than deal with a guy who is going to jump between brilliance and atrocity on any given Sunday.
     
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    I'm sorry. With all due respect, I am not falling for the "Nick Foles can be a franchise QB" hype, simply because he played one good game, and two exceptional games in the playoffs, one being a Super Bowl-MVP performance. He's still NICK FOLES, for pete's sake!! He's far more likely to end up closer to Scott Mitchell then to Tom Brady (just to cite two extremes of the backup-elevated-to-starter and finding some success,,,more than "some" in Brady's case).

    Don't believe the hype!!!
     
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    I would try to trade for foles, like a 3th round and next year second
    Draft best player available in the first (offensive lineman?) And Lauletta in the second round
     
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    Vinny and Bick just had an Eagles' beat reporter on who said that he thinks Wentz is way ahead of schedule...that they have cap issues...Foles' stock will never be higher...makes it easier on Wentz and Foles to move him now.
     
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    I believe in the player and his talent, not the hype. If you want to judge him on his Jeff Fisher years, then that's your prerogative.
     
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    Two exceptional games, one good game and a pro bowl season. Following his Pro Bowl season Chop Kelly went full retard into his own stupid system that didn't match Nick's skill set. From there he was stuck with Jeff Fisher, ruiner of QB's, and then went to KC where Alex Smith was the absolute starter.

    If ever there was a guy that could claim to be the victim of circumstance, its Foles.
     
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    Not going to get it done. There will be better offers than that.
     
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    its not one game or a few, since taking over for the eagles he has been lights out and had one of the best postseason runs for a QB
     
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    :yeahthat::newcards:
     
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