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  1. Chaplin

    Chaplin Better off silent

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    No-Trade clauses are the worst. It's holding your current team hostage.
     
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    Ronin Back to life....Back to reality Contributor

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    Not necessarily. While I can see the upside to that, they're implementing it at a time when the Suns could tank. The NBA won't even let us tank like other teams have.
     
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    We tanked pretty fierce last year.

    Also, I suspect this is more about good teams resting players against other good teams down the stretch as opposed to crappy teams out sucking each other.
     
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    We did tank hard last year but we didn't benefit from it because of how the lottery played out. I don't think we should tank this year, at least not from the start, but things will be interesting around the trade deadline. We should be better than last year, how much better is questionable. If we're in the bottom 3 or 4 teams in the league around the All Star break then we should aim to improve our draft position but I think we should also be looking to move players that don't fit longterm like Bledsoe and Chandler rather than benching them.

    I know they're looking to put rules in place because of how all of the contenders rested their stars toward the end of the regular season but to get everyone on board for rule chances they need to appeal to the contenders also and deal with the blatant tank jobs that some teams have been pulling. Almost all of the lottery teams last year pulled their veterans for the last 2 weeks of the season. I can't recall ever seeing a season end as poorly as this last one did in terms of all the healthy scratches.
     
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    I especially agree with the first paragraph. The Suns should not consider tanking unless they are among the worst teams in the NBA at the All-Star Break. If this happens, as you note, then some of the older players should be traded to fit the Suns timeline for winning.

    However, if the Suns are playing well, not necessarily a winning at the All-Star break, I would be happier if they could add a key player via trade so they hit next season running. I liked Portland trading for
    Nurkic in February. If not for injury, he made the Trail Blazers a much stronger team.
     
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    It looks like the Knicks and Rockets have re-engaged in trade talks involving Carmelo Anthony. It would be nice if the Suns could get an asset by being a third team in the trade.

    By Adrian Wojnarowski ESPN

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20306075/knicks-rockets-re-engage-carmelo-anthony-trade-talks
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Melo hasn't helped himself if he really wants to go to the Rockets. Turning down the chance to go to Cleveland or Portland puts the Knicks in a bad place if they hope to get any return for him. The Rockets being the only team he wants to go to also are in a good position to negotiate. If the Knicks didn't get rid of Phil Jackson I think a trade would have been done by now but they would have only gotten about 10 cents on the dollar for him. They don't stand to get much more than that now but at least they can keep him around without as much trouble.

    I don't think getting involved in a 3 team trade with Houston and New York would benefit us either, neither team has many assets that would fit well here that are likely to be moved. If Knight wasn't injured I would have liked to have seen the Suns try to squeeze him into a deal there, that would depend on how Hornacek views him though. He did coach him for about a full season between the season we received Knight and before he was let go.
     
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    I'm not sure if the Knicks or Rockets have anything to offer either but it should be explored. Before Knight's injury I had hoped he might be included in a trade package. I wouldn't be opposed to a first round pick coming the Suns way in the right deal.
     
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