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		<title>By: kerouac9</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Walter says: &#8220;I prefer Wells at tackleâ€¦butâ€¦&#60;B&#62;the closer I look at Russ Grimmâ€™s schemes&#60;/B&#62; the more I realize that Wells, by virtue of his feet, is the kind of player Grimm wants at guard.&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;What schemes are you looking at, exactly?  Grimm hasn&#8217;t coached a down in Arizona.  Are we to believe that you taped Pittsburg games all season long just in case we fired Denny and hired a Steeler coach as a replacement?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter says: &#8220;I prefer Wells at tackleâ€¦butâ€¦&#60;B&#62;the closer I look at Russ Grimmâ€™s schemes&#60;/B&#62; the more I realize that Wells, by virtue of his feet, is the kind of player Grimm wants at guard.&#8221; </p>
<p>What schemes are you looking at, exactly?  Grimm hasn&#8217;t coached a down in Arizona.  Are we to believe that you taped Pittsburg games all season long just in case we fired Denny and hired a Steeler coach as a replacement?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Wow! Enlightened opinions for a change. So much more educating than the junk I read on AZCentral.  Thanks for the reasoned commentary, gents.  GO CARDS!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Enlightened opinions for a change. So much more educating than the junk I read on AZCentral.  Thanks for the reasoned commentary, gents.  GO CARDS!</p>
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		<title>By: joeshmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;If the competition is close with the FB&#8217;s then why would the rookies have an advantage over Smith.  It wouldnt be a cap issue becuase cutting Smith and keeping 1 or 2 of the rookies will acutallly cost as much as keeping Smith and 1 rookie, after you take into account his bonus.  Smith was also brought in by someone who already has a lot of knowledge about him Maurice Carthon our RB coach.  &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Why would any of the 3 UDFA&#8217;s be likely more effecive on Special Teams.  Do any of them have more experiance on special teams.  Is Smith not willing to play special teams.  I know that Smith is a really, really good kickoff return blocker and has done that every single year he has been in the league.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;As for bringing in 3 &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UDFA&lt;/span&gt; FB&#8217;s doesnt mean anything dubious at all.  If they didnt like Smith then they wouldnt have signed him to a contract.  Also  3 days worth of practices of no hitting right before the draft is not time for the coaches to regret their decision.  The signings is just a case of not overworking any one player during mini camps and training camps when they will be working on a lot of FB stuff since we havent used for so long.  Its the same reason why brought in more &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UDFA&lt;/span&gt; safeties when they dont have a shot in heck to get into the top 4 safeties we have now.  &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I think this is just a case of you rooting for the underdog or rooting for the &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UDFA&lt;/span&gt; like you normally do.  And there is not anything wrong that.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the competition is close with the FB&#8217;s then why would the rookies have an advantage over Smith.  It wouldnt be a cap issue becuase cutting Smith and keeping 1 or 2 of the rookies will acutallly cost as much as keeping Smith and 1 rookie, after you take into account his bonus.  Smith was also brought in by someone who already has a lot of knowledge about him Maurice Carthon our RB coach.  </p>
<p>Why would any of the 3 UDFA&#8217;s be likely more effecive on Special Teams.  Do any of them have more experiance on special teams.  Is Smith not willing to play special teams.  I know that Smith is a really, really good kickoff return blocker and has done that every single year he has been in the league.</p>
<p>As for bringing in 3 <span class="caps">UDFA</span> FB&#8217;s doesnt mean anything dubious at all.  If they didnt like Smith then they wouldnt have signed him to a contract.  Also  3 days worth of practices of no hitting right before the draft is not time for the coaches to regret their decision.  The signings is just a case of not overworking any one player during mini camps and training camps when they will be working on a lot of FB stuff since we havent used for so long.  Its the same reason why brought in more <span class="caps">UDFA</span> safeties when they dont have a shot in heck to get into the top 4 safeties we have now.  </p>
<p>I think this is just a case of you rooting for the underdog or rooting for the <span class="caps">UDFA</span> like you normally do.  And there is not anything wrong that.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Mitchell</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;az1965: I prefer Wells at tackle&#8230;but&#8230;the closer I look at Russ Grimm&#8217;s schemes the more I realize that Wells, by virtue of his feet, is the kind of player Grimm wants at guard. I expect Wells to be a nice surprise because Grimm will teach Wells how to create blocking angles, proper pad levels and leverege techniques&#8230;all set up by proper footwork (which is Wells&#8217; strength).&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Joe&#8230;Terrelle Smith has to be head and shoulders better than Castille and Vercher (and Snow) to make the team. If the competition is close, expect the rookies to stick&#8230;plus they would likely be more effective on special teams. For some reason it seems the Cardinals have been a little dubious about Smith from the get-go. Bringing in three &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UCFA&lt;/span&gt; FBs was no coincidence.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;AJ: Spurlock is actually more of a Whiz-type slot WR in the mold of Randle-El&#8230;which is why his chances of making this team are even better than what they might have been had Green stayed on. Spurlock is a keeper. You will see.&lt;br /&gt;
As for McCoy, this kid has talent as we saw when he was making good plays down the stretch of his rookie year. The questions are&#8230;is he injury prone?...has he regressed after a year on the IR?...is the WR field too crowded for him at this point?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>az1965: I prefer Wells at tackle&#8230;but&#8230;the closer I look at Russ Grimm&#8217;s schemes the more I realize that Wells, by virtue of his feet, is the kind of player Grimm wants at guard. I expect Wells to be a nice surprise because Grimm will teach Wells how to create blocking angles, proper pad levels and leverege techniques&#8230;all set up by proper footwork (which is Wells&#8217; strength).</p>
<p>Joe&#8230;Terrelle Smith has to be head and shoulders better than Castille and Vercher (and Snow) to make the team. If the competition is close, expect the rookies to stick&#8230;plus they would likely be more effective on special teams. For some reason it seems the Cardinals have been a little dubious about Smith from the get-go. Bringing in three <span class="caps">UCFA</span> FBs was no coincidence.</p>
<p>AJ: Spurlock is actually more of a Whiz-type slot WR in the mold of Randle-El&#8230;which is why his chances of making this team are even better than what they might have been had Green stayed on. Spurlock is a keeper. You will see.<br />
As for McCoy, this kid has talent as we saw when he was making good plays down the stretch of his rookie year. The questions are&#8230;is he injury prone?&#8230;has he regressed after a year on the IR?&#8230;is the WR field too crowded for him at this point?</p>
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		<title>By: ajcardfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;If Johnson winds up as a backup to Leckey, Graves it will be the worst free agent signing in the history of this franchise.  And that&#8217;s saying something!&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I just can&#8217;t see what you see with Shipp.  He has no advantage over James as a back. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I also think guys who were fringe players with Green, like Spurlock and McCoy are not likely to make it.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Johnson winds up as a backup to Leckey, Graves it will be the worst free agent signing in the history of this franchise.  And that&#8217;s saying something!</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t see what you see with Shipp.  He has no advantage over James as a back. </p>
<p>I also think guys who were fringe players with Green, like Spurlock and McCoy are not likely to make it.</p>
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		<title>By: joeshmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;I have to completely disagree with FB &#8211; Smith not making the team at all.  He is proven, doesnt cost much, and they have already paid him a bonus which will go completely down the drain without any returns.  &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;As much as everyone wants Leckey to start myself included who thinks he should still be the starter until Johnson beats him for it, and as much as the coaches talk about playing the best players, I just dont think they can get past the fact that Johnson would be making 7 Mill to sit on the bench.  His price tag also tells me that they really didnt like what they saw from Leckey on tape when in concerns fitting their scheme.  &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I think you are pretty on the money with the WR&#8217;s except you have 7 of them on your roster.  McCoy at this time is the odd man out, with Fitz, Boldin, BJ, Morey, Breaston, and Spurlock.    &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I understand why Wells is at LG and think it is a good idea if Grimms scheme is explained to us right.  What I want to know is just how much will Wells be on the move to block on pulls and such.  Is he really going to be on the move that often?  And on pass protection he will not be on the move which means he will have to block one on one with much stronger players then he is which completely plays into the D&#8217;s hands, especially since Gandy will need some help in pass pro.  himself.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;As for the RB&#8217;s.  I dont think anyone can say what Wiz run schemes are.  I think his run schemes are based on what RB&#8217;s he has.  He has called plays for the powerful Bus, he has called plays for the speedy Willie Parker.  Case in point for parker last year Wiz called 52% of his run plays off tackle or further outside, 48% were in between the tackles.  I am also not so sure why Edge has the label that he does and why people dont think he can run another style.  He switched his style of run the last 8 games last year when we abandoned the more stretch and zone style of blocking, and did very, very well.  It wasnt a hard switch for him and he can lower his shoulder and get extra yards with the best of them.  Also people have stated that he doesnt like running behind a FB.  This is a media urban legend becuase Edge has never said such a thing, in fact he ran mostly behind a FB in college and was succesfull with it and has also stated this year when we signed Smith that he doesnt have a problem with it as long as he is opening up some holes and becuase he has played behind a FB in the past.  now Shipp will get his carries, and I also think JJ wil get his playing time as well, but I have no doubt that Edge will be the starter and be the RB to get 300+ carries on this team.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to completely disagree with FB &#8211; Smith not making the team at all.  He is proven, doesnt cost much, and they have already paid him a bonus which will go completely down the drain without any returns.  </p>
<p>As much as everyone wants Leckey to start myself included who thinks he should still be the starter until Johnson beats him for it, and as much as the coaches talk about playing the best players, I just dont think they can get past the fact that Johnson would be making 7 Mill to sit on the bench.  His price tag also tells me that they really didnt like what they saw from Leckey on tape when in concerns fitting their scheme.  </p>
<p>I think you are pretty on the money with the WR&#8217;s except you have 7 of them on your roster.  McCoy at this time is the odd man out, with Fitz, Boldin, BJ, Morey, Breaston, and Spurlock.    </p>
<p>I understand why Wells is at LG and think it is a good idea if Grimms scheme is explained to us right.  What I want to know is just how much will Wells be on the move to block on pulls and such.  Is he really going to be on the move that often?  And on pass protection he will not be on the move which means he will have to block one on one with much stronger players then he is which completely plays into the D&#8217;s hands, especially since Gandy will need some help in pass pro.  himself.</p>
<p>As for the RB&#8217;s.  I dont think anyone can say what Wiz run schemes are.  I think his run schemes are based on what RB&#8217;s he has.  He has called plays for the powerful Bus, he has called plays for the speedy Willie Parker.  Case in point for parker last year Wiz called 52% of his run plays off tackle or further outside, 48% were in between the tackles.  I am also not so sure why Edge has the label that he does and why people dont think he can run another style.  He switched his style of run the last 8 games last year when we abandoned the more stretch and zone style of blocking, and did very, very well.  It wasnt a hard switch for him and he can lower his shoulder and get extra yards with the best of them.  Also people have stated that he doesnt like running behind a FB.  This is a media urban legend becuase Edge has never said such a thing, in fact he ran mostly behind a FB in college and was succesfull with it and has also stated this year when we signed Smith that he doesnt have a problem with it as long as he is opening up some holes and becuase he has played behind a FB in the past.  now Shipp will get his carries, and I also think JJ wil get his playing time as well, but I have no doubt that Edge will be the starter and be the RB to get 300+ carries on this team.</p>
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		<title>By: az1965</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Mitch, why do you think Wells will excel at guard? Don&#8217;t Whiz and Grimm want to establish a smash mouth running game that requires strong push in the middle which is opposite to what Wells can do?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch, why do you think Wells will excel at guard? Don&#8217;t Whiz and Grimm want to establish a smash mouth running game that requires strong push in the middle which is opposite to what Wells can do?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Skane</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Don&#8217;t know enough to comment on most of it, just on four items:&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;1.  Completely agree with you on the RBs.  You nailed it.  And Edge will be released next year.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;2.  Mike Gandy is not a tackle.  He is a decent guard but is too slow to do any pulling and running.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;3,  Right on target again with Nick Leckey and Al Johnson.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;4. Disagree on Bryant Johnson.  He will hardly ever be on the field this year.  The days of three WR spreads are over here.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know enough to comment on most of it, just on four items:</p>
<p>1.  Completely agree with you on the RBs.  You nailed it.  And Edge will be released next year.</p>
<p>2.  Mike Gandy is not a tackle.  He is a decent guard but is too slow to do any pulling and running.</p>
<p>3,  Right on target again with Nick Leckey and Al Johnson.</p>
<p>4. Disagree on Bryant Johnson.  He will hardly ever be on the field this year.  The days of three WR spreads are over here.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Mitchell</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 21:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;BRR: Marcel Shipp is the most undervalued, under-estimated player on this roster and he will make believers out of everyone, once and for all, this year.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRR: Marcel Shipp is the most undervalued, under-estimated player on this roster and he will make believers out of everyone, once and for all, this year.</p>
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		<title>By: BigRedRage</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Shipp being better than edge this year? I had to stop right there, I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ve been drinkin. We all love underdogs obviously but thats just not gonna happen.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shipp being better than edge this year? I had to stop right there, I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ve been drinkin. We all love underdogs obviously but thats just not gonna happen.</p>
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